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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 24624312, member: 112"]Yeah we know, but there's still a whole lot of people who don't believe it. The thing about the printed pop reports is that they prove it in black and white. And they tell you when the grading standards changed, were loosened. And the TPGs would much prefer that the people don't know either of those things. Think about it, what does knowing that do to their reputations ?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There's a finite number of all coins in any given date/mint. Those numbers are published in many sources so they are well known. So the possible supply can never increase. And, there are always those coins that are destroyed, lost, damaged, whatever, through attrition over the years. And of course the older the coins are the higher the rate of attrition. That, all by itself, tells us that the basic supply is constantly decreasing.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What you're really looking for is how many coins of any given date/mint still survive. But there's no way of ever knowing that with any degree of certainty for a few reasons. One, we can never know how many are lost through attrition. We know that it happens, but we can't even estimate the number. Two, we can never know how many are simply held by collectors without ever being sent in to a TPG. And three, is the only TPG that ever published printed pop reports, and as you now know they only did so for a limited time. There is one exception, NGC published a pop report in 2004, but it only covered modern coins (defined as minted post '65). And it only included those in grades MS64 and up. And they never printed another one.</p><p><br /></p><p>The point here of course is that because there are so many TPGs, other than PCGS, there is no way we can ever know the total population for any date/mint that has been submitted to all of them. And knowing only one doesn't do us much good. And as it turns out, we can't even know that one because they stopped printing the pop reports so long ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>So while I understand your desire, it simply can't be done.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 24624312, member: 112"]Yeah we know, but there's still a whole lot of people who don't believe it. The thing about the printed pop reports is that they prove it in black and white. And they tell you when the grading standards changed, were loosened. And the TPGs would much prefer that the people don't know either of those things. Think about it, what does knowing that do to their reputations ? There's a finite number of all coins in any given date/mint. Those numbers are published in many sources so they are well known. So the possible supply can never increase. And, there are always those coins that are destroyed, lost, damaged, whatever, through attrition over the years. And of course the older the coins are the higher the rate of attrition. That, all by itself, tells us that the basic supply is constantly decreasing. What you're really looking for is how many coins of any given date/mint still survive. But there's no way of ever knowing that with any degree of certainty for a few reasons. One, we can never know how many are lost through attrition. We know that it happens, but we can't even estimate the number. Two, we can never know how many are simply held by collectors without ever being sent in to a TPG. And three, is the only TPG that ever published printed pop reports, and as you now know they only did so for a limited time. There is one exception, NGC published a pop report in 2004, but it only covered modern coins (defined as minted post '65). And it only included those in grades MS64 and up. And they never printed another one. The point here of course is that because there are so many TPGs, other than PCGS, there is no way we can ever know the total population for any date/mint that has been submitted to all of them. And knowing only one doesn't do us much good. And as it turns out, we can't even know that one because they stopped printing the pop reports so long ago. So while I understand your desire, it simply can't be done.[/QUOTE]
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