Utah quarter, strange cud? Die crack? or what?

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  1. Pop70

    Pop70 Member

    My newbieness once again shows forth, Going through some of my state quarters with my USB microscope, found this. Was looking for the doubled die listed on doubled die, thought maybe I had found one, then compared this to at least a roll of same 2007's; non of the others had this (still confused on the terms of cud, die crack), but this thing is on the East side of the spike, not the West. So would be greatly appreciated of some of the vast knowledge that is here could be shared please. Thank you all so very much.
     

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    A cud has only to do with the rim, a die crack, well looks like a crack. An interior die break, can be anywhere in interior of the coin, they look like a blob of metal. You can look up the definitions on Error reference. http://www.error-ref.com/
    Yours looks like an interior die break, to me.
    There are many others here that know these quarters,
    I'd wait for other opinions.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    @Pickin and Grinin

    First, a cud is a break along the rim that extends into the field. There are some error collectors who believe that a cud can be a break on the rim alone, but I'm old school. Die cracks can be found just about anywhere on a coin and can even extend through the devices onto the rim.

    As for the anomaly on your UT SQ, I have a few dozen of these that came from a Mint bag. I haven't figured out what may have caused it, so I've been loathe to even mention it in the past. I was hoping that someone else might have the same coin, but it has been about 10 years and this is the first time the subject has been raised.

    What makes this mark confusing for me is that it is recessed, not raised. A raised mark might be the result of a die dent or die gouge and could be repeatable on successive coins during the striking process. However, since this mark is recessed, I might liken it to a strikethrough, but could a strikethrough be repeated on several dozen coins? That is what is confusing for me. Perhaps someone has an answer for this.

    Chris
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I agree with you there, should have finished my cup of coffee and done a better job of proof reading.

    That, is interesting because it looks raised. I hope you find the answer.
     
  6. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I don't see what you are talking about.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

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    It's the vertical mark on the right side of the spike when you look at the close-up (3rd image).

    Chris
     
  8. Pop70

    Pop70 Member

    Well thank you so very much, Glade you too found some, so as of now it may be the dubbed the great mystery LOL. Awaiting further input as are you. Thank you also for the clarification of the dub/die crack.
     
  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm perplexed by this one. My first reaction was some sort of machine doubling that has an unusual appearance.
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    Jason, I ruled that out because you shouldn't expect to see machine doubling inside the outer edge of the device shaped like this....[.

    Out of curiosity, I decided to dig my specimens out, and I actually have 63 of them. I wonder if I should send a few of them to one of the online specialists for examination. They still have me stumped.

    Chris
     
  11. Pop70

    Pop70 Member

    63 of these Utah quarters, wow. Please let me know should you come up with something I would be most grateful, thank you.
     
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