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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bzcollektor, post: 159275, member: 3241&quot;]We had a simular thread asking about USGS about a month ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>The thread ended &quot;locked&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had never heard of &quot;USGS&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>EXCEPT for COIN TALK, I have still never heard of &quot;USGS&quot;. My opinion at the time was, after reading the comments on the thread , USGS was being &quot;Talked Up&quot;. There are another 10-15 &quot;Nobody EVER heard of them&quot; so called grading companies. As Jody526 remarked, ANYBODY can buy Coin World&nbsp; slab look-a-like holders and &quot;grade&quot; whatever they wish. I am sure by now, I could do an ebay search of USGS and get hundreds of hits.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some do not like any Third Party Graders (TPG`s). I can`t speak to the modern MS69-MS70 (and Proofs) contraversy. What the eff difference (really) between a 69 or 70.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not so with older hi-grade coins. TPG`s have become a fact of life (like it or not). In Morgan Dollars (my specialty, although I have others), the price difference from an MS64 to an MS65 in a particular date can be several thousands of dollars. Extreme examples exist such an 1893-S Morgan in AU58 and one in MS60. The price difference is measured in the tens of thousands of dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Raw, ungraded coins can be a steal. I steal&nbsp; raw coins all the time. BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO GRADE. Because I know how to grade, no one can ever get over on me. We have all been there back in the day. Remember when your dealer sold you a &quot;GEM BU&quot; coin and then a year or so later, when the coin market was up, and you tried to sell it back to him? Of course it is now only an AU (or &quot;slider&quot;) Maybe only an XF.</p><p><br /></p><p>My point is Don`t Buy any coin from these no name grading sevices.&nbsp; If it isn`t PCGS, NGS, or ANACS, and to a lesser extent PCI, or ICG, then RUN AWAY. There is a reason why no name graded coins sell for half or a tenth of the price of the majors.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can buy non-graded coins. I have to say you REALLY,REALLY must have to know the market and the grading of the coins in your interest.</p><p><br /></p><p>NEVER buy any really expensive coin based on the grade someone else gives it.</p><p><br /></p><p>NEVER pay greysheet for these FAKE TPG`s like USCG, SGS, CCGS, NNI, NNC, or any other BS grader.</p><p><br /></p><p>You must learn to grade if you spend more than $2.00 for any coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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