Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ocatarinetabellatchitchix, Jul 11, 2019.
Sorry you feel that way.
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per year for in-state students, and over $32,000 per year for out-of-state students. Maybe it's just me, but that seems like an expensive way to gain critical thinking skills, on a major that I bet a large percentage of graduates never get to work in. I wonder how long they critically think about their insane student loan over the years.
You know what 'burns me? Some young person who can't make simple 'change' from a purchase that you've made without the assistance of an electronic device. Children who take a math test are allowed to use calculators instead of working out a problem on a piece of paper. Thinking it through instead of working out the problem and handing the answer to them. In some ways I think the educational system in this country is trying to 'dumb' people/children down.
Ever see the movie 'Idiocracy'?That's the future for people who don't educate themselves in some sphere or influence. You guys who took courses, even though they don't relate to your current 'job' are much more worldly and intelligent for the education you've received. And it will serve you well in life, because any education is not wasted.......IMHO
In a way law is like that, you have to learn it on your own or with the guidance and good graces of older attorneys. Almost nothing you learned in law school has any practicality and application to the real world. So when you graduate you come to the realization that you have been fed mostly obsolete concepts of law that no longer apply or almost never come up in the real world, and have little practical knowledge whatsoever about your profession. Most graduates are able to recite and understand many concepts of law that have become obsolete in their state more than 50 or 60 years prior but can't file a basic motion, or know how to properly draft a complaint, or know how to depose, examine, cross examine, and impeach witnesses. Pretty sad stuff.
Pretty much every attorney ends up having to teach themselves or learn little bits of scraps here and there from other attorneys, and put it all together. Heck, that still happens to older attorneys moving into an area of law they never practiced before. I'm running circles around an attorney that's 20 years older than me. But he is recently trying to get into family law while I've been doing the same for nearly a decade. He's learning from the scraps of knowledge I'm giving him every time I pull out another motion and argue a concept he's never heard. Next time around he won't be as easy to face because now he will have self-taught himself from the education I've indirectly given him in court, and will have a better understanding of what works and doesn't work, and when to back off and when to go for the jugular and draw blood.
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That’s on you, not the degree.
After spending about 2 decades in my chosen career, surrounded and often being chosen to lead others with MFAs, MBAs, PhDs, etc on projects, and presenting at international conferences in my field, I've been slowly chipping away at courses towards completing my undergrad for the past 4 years (only about 1 year to go!) after initially attending only 1 year at a tech school to get the basics under my belt and then self taught through my work. It has given me the ability to see new ways of doing things that others were shown, how to solve problems and seek out answers, challenge how things are done, and ask what would be thought of as the "stupid" noob questions.
Early in my career, there was a quote by Robert Ingersoll that I enjoyed, "Colleges and universities polish pebbles and dim diamonds."
I can't (and shouldn't) say that now that I've worked in the higher ed space for over 12 years now lol I don't wholeheartedly believe that anymore. The diamonds need to know what to do with the education they are receiving, so they start sharp. One is responsible for how they receive and assimilate the knowledge, being judicious in what they accept. I actually feel thankful for the opportunity to go back to college in my late 30s, as I am more discerning and critical about the content and how it fits with my current and future life work and goals.
The only concern I have about kindle or any other digital book is that they can always be altered and no trace Left Behind..... remember history is a set of lies agreed upon.
There was a time when you could get by with a high school diploma and an extensive knowledge of computers. Now that isn't even possible due to the complexity. I should have taken that job as systems analyst when it was offered to me, but without having a degree, among other things, I felt inadequate to take it. I was happy just being in operations. I was a glorified button pusher!
Yes. I am friends with a couple of Italian computer scientists who got the Ph.D. degree equivalent without paying for tuition. In the U.S. of course it is a different story.
Um. Well, that's fantasy fiction, not history. Two very different things. Daniken was proven to have plagiarized much of what is in Chariots of the Gods directly from H.P. Lovecraft.
As to the OP, while I do agree that a 'useless' degree does and can exist, in most cases careers are on the job trained anyway. In many cases a potential employer just wants to see that you did get some sort of degree at all. I don't think I know anyone who is currently employed in the field of their degree specialty.
Those of you with some Latin should recognize the word Education. It contains 2 roots educare-to train or to mold and educere to draw out or lead out. For me education is about educere. Another way to think of it is by considering this quotation from Yeats "Education is not the filling of a pail, it is the lighting of a fire". There is nothing wrong with getting a degree in order to get a job, but there are other reasons to pursue a degree. One of these is to, as Joseph Campbell said, "Follow your bliss". In other words there is more to life than a job. For me education has always been about chasing what makes me passionate.
Not quite. The tuition fee only applies if you need "too many" semesters:
"As a EU/EEA/CH citizen you don't have to pay the tuition fee during the minimum duration of your degree programme plus two semesters of tolerance. You only have to pay the Students' Union fee (20.20 Euro). If your study duration exceeds the two extra semesters, you have to pay the tuition fee (363.36 Euro) additionally to the Students' Union fee (total sum of 383.56 Euro)." https://slw.univie.ac.at/en/studying/tuition-fee/amount-eueeach-citizens/
@Orfew and having your perceptions challenged. The utility of my degree is yet to be determined, but never have I had so many of my perceptions challenged in such a short period of time.
I'd say it's on me for choosing to specialize in Buddhist art history.
However, it's on the degree for being completely irrelevant and useless.
It's certainly my fault for making poor decisions, but there's not much to be done about the fact that there's literally (probably) a dozen people making a living off Buddhist studies in this country.
A question I get asked at every interview is "why are you applying here if you have
A) a master's degree in general
B) a master's degree in Asian Studies
I feel like if the degree field actually didn't matter then they wouldn't be so interested in why I want to work at Enterprise (for example) if I studied Asian Studies, you know?
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