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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;satootoko, post: 159074, member: 669&quot;]<img src="http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> to CoinTalk Deb, but you sure don&#039;t give us much to go on.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you are talking about what the Redbook calls &quot;Bar Copper&quot;, it is described there as having thirteen parallel bars on one side, and a large USA monogram on the other; supposedly copied from a Cotinental button.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is a picture of one on page 53 of the 2003 edition, and probably close to the same place in later editions.&nbsp; It is believed to have been struck around 1785, and the &quot;A&quot; passes over the &quot;S&quot;.&nbsp; There is also a copy struck around 1862, distinguished by the &quot;A&quot; passing under the &quot;S&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>The original is valued from $700 in VG condition, to $4,500 in AU, but that may have changed in the intervening years since my book was published.&nbsp; <img src="http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/confused-smiley-013.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Just based on the Redbook description, my guess is that it would take a real expert to authenticate an example as either an original, the 1862 copy, or a more modern copy; and I&#039;d make a considerable wager at odds of 8-5, with half your money back if you lose, that the expert would need to see the coin, not a picture.</p><p><br /></p><p>[Boy, I sure need to learn how to type faster! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> )</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW Speedy - where did you get that die crack info?&nbsp; I don&#039;t see one on either the picture at CoinFacts, or the less sharp one in the Redbook.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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