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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Juan Blanco, post: 1566677, member: 41665&quot;]Well these replies are certainly digressive, but I like them anyway!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So true - but I think city-folks are even dimmer than that! Here in Boston, ppl don&#039;t seem to know you can COOK pumpkin in the oven +20min and then eat it (w/ butter &amp; spices, to your druthers.) It&#039;s not just a front-stoop adornment! So many good (uncarved) ones get thrown away now - just test those left out on garbage day. </p><p><br /></p><p>The $4 loaves of organic bread - still fresh - get binned because of silly state laws. I could go on and on, but I&#039;m not a raving freegan. There&#039;s so much food-waste, it&#039;s just appalling. </p><p><br /></p><p><u>On Urban Agro-Production:</u></p><p><u></u>Lots of younger people in the Boston/NYC metro areas are thinking how to compost &amp; urban-garden, way beyond limousine-liberal &quot;recycling.&quot; They&#039;re a new generation of Blue State prepper, emerging a non-religious and non-Doomer demographic. I always recommend they look for those old issues of Foxfire:</p><p><a href="http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfiremagazine.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfiremagazine.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfiremagazine.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And Detroit seems to be &#039;Ground Zero&#039; for the renewalist movement: </p><p><a href="http://www.urbanfarming.org/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.urbanfarming.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanfarming.org/</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not saying this trend is economical, but it&#039;s a first step towards reawakening popular agronomy here in the USA. The social benefits of getting people to THINK seriously about food (production, storage, conservation, etc.) through garden-work can&#039;t be a bad thing. We shouldn&#039;t be importing &#039;landscapers&#039; nor farm-workers from Central America, either. I think that paradigm - take the infamous example of Mitt Romney&#039;s undocumented Brazilian landscapers - must change.</p><p><br /></p><p>To my mind, Silver &amp; food-commodity discussions always recall that famous speech of Wm Jennings Bryan:</p><p><a href="http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/" rel="nofollow">http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/</a></p><p>&quot;You come to us and tell us that the great cities are in favor of the gold standard. I tell you that the great cities rest upon these broad and fertile prairies. Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic. But destroy our farms and the grass will grow in the streets of every city in the country.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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