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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 1580099, member: 4626"]Er you do realize this would defeat the entire point of commemorative coins right? Or at least their original purpose. Notwithstanding we are not in fact, broke in the literal sense that we are unable to make payments on our debts, the amount of money raised by selling commemorative coins would barely be a drop in the bucket. We're not going to make any significant headway in deficit reduction selling coins. Without getting too much into the politics of it, balancing the budget is in theory simple: quit spending more money than we take in (so take in more and/or spend less).</p><p><br /></p><p>The original point, and for the most part it still is (in theory at least), of commemorative coins is to raise money for the organization/cause/whatever that the coin is intended to promote. Take that away and the only commems. that will ever get made are whatever the government can dream up, and I think most will agree their imagination is rather limited. Passing this legislation would basically guarantee that organizations have almost zero motive to bother trying to get any recognition, and the commems will be based on the ideas that the government can be bothered to dream up. Commems would die off very quickly. Look t the classic commems; had this proposed legislation been in place then, almost none of them would now exist. How would that be a good thing, especially from a coin collecting standpoint? And since commem coins are produced almost entirely for the sake of collectors, that's a very important consideration. This legislation actually passes, the government would actually get LESS money from commemorative coin programs, because the sales of them would drop through the floor as soon as they ran out of ideas of what to commemorate, which wouldn't take them long.</p><p><br /></p><p>P.S. Couldn't figure out how to work that in there, but it should also be mentioned that just about every commemorative coin from 1892 to the present has been a net profit for the government anyway absent this legislation. At worst the government basically broke even. They're at least supposed to be compensated for the cost of production and/or the face value of the coins out of the sales proceeds already, which unless it just doesn't sell, already happens anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>P.P.S. Er didn't realize this was that old a thread lol... was looking for a different thread, this came up somehow, and I didn't notice the date until I already posted. But as long as I'm here anyway... last I heard this legislation basically died in committee without ever even being voted on, and likely won't be brought up again by the new congress, so I guess it's basically a moot point for now. However those who supported this legislation should read the article posted by the OP more thoroughly; the government doesn't give a single cent to organizations that are promoted on these coins until they recoup 100% of the cost for minting them first. The worst off the government ever is for minting these is breaking even. They usually make a profit anyway from the seigniorage.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 1580099, member: 4626"]Er you do realize this would defeat the entire point of commemorative coins right? Or at least their original purpose. Notwithstanding we are not in fact, broke in the literal sense that we are unable to make payments on our debts, the amount of money raised by selling commemorative coins would barely be a drop in the bucket. We're not going to make any significant headway in deficit reduction selling coins. Without getting too much into the politics of it, balancing the budget is in theory simple: quit spending more money than we take in (so take in more and/or spend less). The original point, and for the most part it still is (in theory at least), of commemorative coins is to raise money for the organization/cause/whatever that the coin is intended to promote. Take that away and the only commems. that will ever get made are whatever the government can dream up, and I think most will agree their imagination is rather limited. Passing this legislation would basically guarantee that organizations have almost zero motive to bother trying to get any recognition, and the commems will be based on the ideas that the government can be bothered to dream up. Commems would die off very quickly. Look t the classic commems; had this proposed legislation been in place then, almost none of them would now exist. How would that be a good thing, especially from a coin collecting standpoint? And since commem coins are produced almost entirely for the sake of collectors, that's a very important consideration. This legislation actually passes, the government would actually get LESS money from commemorative coin programs, because the sales of them would drop through the floor as soon as they ran out of ideas of what to commemorate, which wouldn't take them long. P.S. Couldn't figure out how to work that in there, but it should also be mentioned that just about every commemorative coin from 1892 to the present has been a net profit for the government anyway absent this legislation. At worst the government basically broke even. They're at least supposed to be compensated for the cost of production and/or the face value of the coins out of the sales proceeds already, which unless it just doesn't sell, already happens anyway. P.P.S. Er didn't realize this was that old a thread lol... was looking for a different thread, this came up somehow, and I didn't notice the date until I already posted. But as long as I'm here anyway... last I heard this legislation basically died in committee without ever even being voted on, and likely won't be brought up again by the new congress, so I guess it's basically a moot point for now. However those who supported this legislation should read the article posted by the OP more thoroughly; the government doesn't give a single cent to organizations that are promoted on these coins until they recoup 100% of the cost for minting them first. The worst off the government ever is for minting these is breaking even. They usually make a profit anyway from the seigniorage.[/QUOTE]
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