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<p>[QUOTE="CheetahCats, post: 1044768, member: 23874"]I would be interested in seeing a posting of the specimen that you speak of. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Georgius Triumpho token in of itself is a bit of a mysterious piece. Some argue that the bust on the obverse of the Georgius Triumpho token has an uncanny similarity to contemporary counterfeit Irish halfpence of the period - namely 1781, 1782, and 1783 pieces. In addition, comparisons have been made with respect to Goddess of Liberty on the reverse. The top half of the Goddess is extremely similar to English contemporary counterfeits of the period as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anton and Kesse¹ proffer that the Georgius Triumpho token was most probably struck sometime around 1787-1790, in contradiction to earlier theories that it was actually struck earlier. Previous evidence had suggested that several earlier New Jersey coppers had been struck on Georgius Triumpho planchets (Maris 73-aa and 56-n), but that has since been questioned.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thus, if your specimen was indeed struck over a Georgius Triumpho copper, there exists a lot more dynamics to the piece that what might appear:<blockquote><p>It could imply that your 1764 24 skilling piece was struck sometime after 1787-1790; or -</p><p>It may sit on an earlier contemporary counterfeit (or evasion) with the bust of George and Hibernia very much similar to the ones which appear on the Triumpho².</p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p>- Cheetah</p><p><br /></p><p>____________</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="1">¹ <u>The Forgotten Coins of the North American Colonies</u>, Anton & Kesse, Woodcliff (c)1990</font></p><p><font size="1"><br /></font></p><p><font size="1">² <u>A Journey through the Monkalokian rain forests in search of the Spiney Fubbaduck</u>, Greensword, Bramcote, (c)1993</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CheetahCats, post: 1044768, member: 23874"]I would be interested in seeing a posting of the specimen that you speak of. The Georgius Triumpho token in of itself is a bit of a mysterious piece. Some argue that the bust on the obverse of the Georgius Triumpho token has an uncanny similarity to contemporary counterfeit Irish halfpence of the period - namely 1781, 1782, and 1783 pieces. In addition, comparisons have been made with respect to Goddess of Liberty on the reverse. The top half of the Goddess is extremely similar to English contemporary counterfeits of the period as well. Anton and Kesse¹ proffer that the Georgius Triumpho token was most probably struck sometime around 1787-1790, in contradiction to earlier theories that it was actually struck earlier. Previous evidence had suggested that several earlier New Jersey coppers had been struck on Georgius Triumpho planchets (Maris 73-aa and 56-n), but that has since been questioned. Thus, if your specimen was indeed struck over a Georgius Triumpho copper, there exists a lot more dynamics to the piece that what might appear:[INDENT]It could imply that your 1764 24 skilling piece was struck sometime after 1787-1790; or - It may sit on an earlier contemporary counterfeit (or evasion) with the bust of George and Hibernia very much similar to the ones which appear on the Triumpho². [/INDENT]- Cheetah ____________ [SIZE=1]¹ [U]The Forgotten Coins of the North American Colonies[/U], Anton & Kesse, Woodcliff (c)1990 ² [U]A Journey through the Monkalokian rain forests in search of the Spiney Fubbaduck[/U], Greensword, Bramcote, (c)1993[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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