Uranius Antoninus

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Steven Michael Gardner, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    I have an option to purchase a tetradrachm of Uranius Antoninus, however I have
    not seen many of these coins to date, those of you who may have some please share them
    as I would like to see what out there..
    The coin I have been offered is currently at the NGC being graded, is this usurper
    much of an investment, demand wise as I have never heard of him, so I'm thinking
    only avid coin experts would have any interest is such a coin...?
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  3. DonnaML

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    Do you have a photo? It's difficult to comment in the abstract.
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  4. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    There is no need to wait for replies. If you are looking for the price or desirability of a "Uranius Antoninius tetradrachm", you can try searching for the above three keywords in auction house aggregator websites. That will also give you a very general overview of how many of his coins exist.

    Photos are available too, so you can estimate the "value" of the coin depending on the condition. Of course, coins sold by a reputable auction house tend to attract stronger prices.
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  5. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Thank you, I will have a look there, it's not necessarily that I have been wanting one, sometimes opportunities come around and i mearly wanted 2nd & more knowledgeable opinions I guess??
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Uranius Antoninius is a coin for people with enough money that they do not care how inconsequential he was and prefer to have that coin than an equally priced coin of someone else. I would rather have another coin or a dozen other coins on my budget but it seems most people posting here have more to spend on someone like this. The important thing is to avoid the common fake below:
  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    I expect it will be expensive and cost you money that could be spent on coins you actually want. There are very few long-term ancient-coin collectors who have done well financially with "investment" coins.

    There are some collectors who have done well financially by buying coins they loved in high grade and when it came time to sell them they found out that others loved those coins too. Uranius Antonius is rare, but rarity has fallen far behind general attractiveness and high condition as a contributor to price. It used to be major collectors had rarities in low condition alongside their high grade beauties. Not so much anymore.
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  8. DonnaML

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    I think that's a bit hyperbolic, @dougsmit! Just scrolling down the results on acsearch, it seems to me that this person's coins -- and there are more than 200 listed, so they aren't that hard to find -- range from $500-$800 on the very low end for poor quality coins (not including buyer's fees), to about $50,000 on the high end (not including gold coins), with most of the results in the low to mid-four figures. I would say that only a very small number of people here have the money to spend on someone like this, and that even fewer would want to, before buying a lot of other coins first. If I had that kind of money to spend on a single coin, I could probably make a list of well over a hundred I'd want more.
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    That is the exact point. $500 to $50,000 can produce one Uranius or 100 other coins in similar condition. We each must decide. I'm a low end collector with only 16 coins that cost over $500 so am not interested in one of those $500 Uranius ugly-as-sin grade coins. Those a step above me need to decide if they want one or, for example, a hundred very high grade, all different RR denarii for $50,000. Others might prefer 100 late Roman uncleaned @ $5 each. How many of either group actively seeks the Uranius, Regalian, Joatipan etc. coins? The answer is more than the market can supply. That explains the number of fakes.
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  10. limmle

    limmle Active Member

    Sorry to add to this thread after a long delay, but has anyone noticed the plethora of Uranius tets on the auction sites over the past 6 months. I got one of these last year, not for an investment, I just love he history and mystery of these shadowy type figures (the coin subsequently developed some bronze disease for which I posted a request for some advice...it seems to be better now https://www.cointalk.com/threads/billon-and-bronze-disease.373103/#post-5387123). Since then there seems to have been dozens of them up for sale. The descriptions all mention how rare the coins are but it appears this is not the case any more. Does anyone know why?
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