Upsetting Question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by JeffC, Feb 12, 2021.

  1. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Friday night Cointalk Q&A. I have a question on the Upsetting Stage of the minting process. This photo is from the U.S. Mint video and shows one interior part of the Upsetting Mill, where the planchet travels down a path that gets narrower and narrower.

    Upsetting Mill US Mint.jpg

    I understand the results. This causes the rim to be formed. But what's puzzling me is why the planchet doesn't get wedged in and become stuck as it glides further and further down a narrowing track. As always, thanks in advance.

    Upsetting Mill US Mint2.jpg
     
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  3. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    I believe this is because the farther side of the upsetting mill is moving, pushing the planchet as it goes; while the other side is stationary. This is how the upsetting mill at the ANA museum works, which is less advanced but I assume that's how the US mint ones work. Correct me if I'm wrong.

     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm afraid I'm too upset now to discuss it.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I guess I see it simpler. If it got stuck they wouldn't use it. As the rim is formed the planchet is made narrower so it needs to grow smaller. See, simple.
     
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  6. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    I went to watch the video again. You're right. My eyes were so focused on the rim getting formed that I didn't notice that the circular part of the machine is rotating very quickly.
     
  7. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

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    How does one insert images these days?
     
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  8. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    OMG, you're right! My question assumes the coin remains the same width - which is not the case. *Smacks forehead*
     
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  9. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Clicking on "Upload a File" no longer works as it did?
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Try downloading the image to your computer first and then uploading it to your post using the upload a file button.
     
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  11. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

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    Aha! Thanks!
     
  12. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but I had been using the "image" button. That doesn't work for me now it seems.
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It's not just you, it's a known issue. Peter's aware of it, but I'm guessing the fix is turning out to be complicated.
     
  14. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Does this have something to do with why some emojis and pictures are being replaced by some tiny default icon with letters after them ?
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yep. Same issue.
     
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm laughing with you but I'm sure laughing. :woot:
     
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  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    You are right. It rolls the blank through the upsetting machine.
     
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  18. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    Sheer brute force. As the steel central wheel spins and rolls the coinage material blank along the steel outer "shoe," the steel wins out over the coinage material, just as the steel dies will reshape the planchet later.
     
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  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the education guys. Be safe
     
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  20. Thelivinglady

    Thelivinglady Member

    What does ears of coins have to do with numismatics? I must be missing something or is this some kind of crazy pun about "corn" and "coin"?
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That was a reference to the quality of my joke. :rolleyes:
     
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