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<p>[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 3557125, member: 74282"]One of the rules I try very hard to stick to with my collection is a strict avoidance of duplicates if at all possible. If there's some small variance that makes keeping both coins worthwhile then I can make an exception but I don't otherwise want two examples of the same coin even if both have redeeming qualities. Because of this I recently had to make a really tough decision when presented with a new example of the Cr. 105/1 pentagram victoriatus. My previous example(at the bottom of the post) had excellent metal, excellent centering on a wide flan, nice old collection toning and decent provenance. This new example was struck slightly off center on a somewhat tight flan and has a dark, slightly irregular natural find patina but has more remaining detail than most examples I've seen of this type and for that reason I simply couldn't say "no". Thankfully a fellow Cointalker made the decision even easier by offering the purchase my old example but I'll leave that to him to discuss.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I've previously shared the type and the related <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-really-took-this-coin-to-the-cleaners.287281/#post-2581805" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-really-took-this-coin-to-the-cleaners.287281/#post-2581805">Cr. 106/1 Staff series victoriatus</a> I have generally attributed them to an Etrurian mint which is the generally accepted origin of these types. Pierluigi Debernardi, however, convinced me via private correspondence over the past few years that this is probably incorrect and these types are more likely to have come from a Spanish mint. I believe that the full explanation is a topic of some forthcoming work of his so you'll have to track that down for a full explanation but I have followed his attribution here and feel it is much stronger and more likely than the previous Etrurian attribution.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]945667[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(3.09g, 17mm, 10h), Anonymous("Pentagram" series). 209-208 B.C., Spanish mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Pentagram between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 105/1; Sydenham 233a.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And here's a photo of my previous example of this type:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]945669[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(2.70g, 18mm, 1h), Anonymous("Pentagram" series). 209-208 B.C., Spanish mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Pentagram between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 105/1; Sydenham 233a.</p><p>Now ex [USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] collection, ex RBW Collection, purchased from Tom Cederlind, 8/16/1995</p><p><br /></p><p>As always, feel free to share anything relevant and let me know what you think of my decision to upgrade.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 3557125, member: 74282"]One of the rules I try very hard to stick to with my collection is a strict avoidance of duplicates if at all possible. If there's some small variance that makes keeping both coins worthwhile then I can make an exception but I don't otherwise want two examples of the same coin even if both have redeeming qualities. Because of this I recently had to make a really tough decision when presented with a new example of the Cr. 105/1 pentagram victoriatus. My previous example(at the bottom of the post) had excellent metal, excellent centering on a wide flan, nice old collection toning and decent provenance. This new example was struck slightly off center on a somewhat tight flan and has a dark, slightly irregular natural find patina but has more remaining detail than most examples I've seen of this type and for that reason I simply couldn't say "no". Thankfully a fellow Cointalker made the decision even easier by offering the purchase my old example but I'll leave that to him to discuss. When I've previously shared the type and the related [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-really-took-this-coin-to-the-cleaners.287281/#post-2581805']Cr. 106/1 Staff series victoriatus[/URL] I have generally attributed them to an Etrurian mint which is the generally accepted origin of these types. Pierluigi Debernardi, however, convinced me via private correspondence over the past few years that this is probably incorrect and these types are more likely to have come from a Spanish mint. I believe that the full explanation is a topic of some forthcoming work of his so you'll have to track that down for a full explanation but I have followed his attribution here and feel it is much stronger and more likely than the previous Etrurian attribution. [ATTACH=full]945667[/ATTACH] Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(3.09g, 17mm, 10h), Anonymous("Pentagram" series). 209-208 B.C., Spanish mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Pentagram between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 105/1; Sydenham 233a. And here's a photo of my previous example of this type: [ATTACH=full]945669[/ATTACH] Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(2.70g, 18mm, 1h), Anonymous("Pentagram" series). 209-208 B.C., Spanish mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Pentagram between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 105/1; Sydenham 233a. Now ex [USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] collection, ex RBW Collection, purchased from Tom Cederlind, 8/16/1995 As always, feel free to share anything relevant and let me know what you think of my decision to upgrade.[/QUOTE]
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