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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2015694, member: 15309"]I wouldn't characterize that statement as double talk, rather, it is blatantly false. The TPGs will absolutely bump the grade of a coin based on the superlative qualities of one side of the coin no matter which side it is. Want proof? Okay, there is no way the obverse surfaces of this Morgan Dollar are MS64. The obverse is MS63 (at best) and the reverse is MS65, so they net graded the coin to MS64*.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars%204%20Sale/MD1885-ONGCMS64GF1553549-009_zpsd393fc53.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Doug, you are also correct that coins used to be graded limited by their worst side, EVEN BY THE TPGs. Furthermore, you are correct that the TPGs changed their policy and started NET grading coins. As LostDutchman alluded to in another thread, (<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/etiquette-questioning-and-or-averaging-grades.254742/page-6#post-2015513" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/etiquette-questioning-and-or-averaging-grades.254742/page-6#post-2015513">Etiquette: questioning and/or "averaging" grades: page6</a>), this is an example of the TPGs giving the market what it wants. While you may disagree, collectors were tired of seeing coins with and MS63 reverse and MS65 obverse being graded MS63. They would rather see the coin net graded to MS64. This does not mean that they changed the standards for what qualifies as an MS63 or an MS64, but it would result in hundreds of thousands of coins getting a higher grade. It is not a deliberate loosening of grading standards that caused grades to increase, it is these additions to their market grading system combined with the natural effect of gradeflation that has yielded higher grades of the last few decades.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2015694, member: 15309"]I wouldn't characterize that statement as double talk, rather, it is blatantly false. The TPGs will absolutely bump the grade of a coin based on the superlative qualities of one side of the coin no matter which side it is. Want proof? Okay, there is no way the obverse surfaces of this Morgan Dollar are MS64. The obverse is MS63 (at best) and the reverse is MS65, so they net graded the coin to MS64*. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars%204%20Sale/MD1885-ONGCMS64GF1553549-009_zpsd393fc53.jpg[/IMG] Doug, you are also correct that coins used to be graded limited by their worst side, EVEN BY THE TPGs. Furthermore, you are correct that the TPGs changed their policy and started NET grading coins. As LostDutchman alluded to in another thread, ([URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/etiquette-questioning-and-or-averaging-grades.254742/page-6#post-2015513']Etiquette: questioning and/or "averaging" grades: page6[/URL]), this is an example of the TPGs giving the market what it wants. While you may disagree, collectors were tired of seeing coins with and MS63 reverse and MS65 obverse being graded MS63. They would rather see the coin net graded to MS64. This does not mean that they changed the standards for what qualifies as an MS63 or an MS64, but it would result in hundreds of thousands of coins getting a higher grade. It is not a deliberate loosening of grading standards that caused grades to increase, it is these additions to their market grading system combined with the natural effect of gradeflation that has yielded higher grades of the last few decades.[/QUOTE]
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