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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by kolyan760, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    Here is one Romano Gallic Empire Victorinus with Marius face ?

    Some one explain please? Post your unusual coins if you have any.. 122F370B-1C06-4D08-AC41-1F96CD93590F.jpeg
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    See, I have no idea what this is, but I would love to learn.
     
  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    It seems that the early portrait of Victorinus had the features of Marius
     
  5. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    During the transition of power there are many coins with portraits very similar to the previous Emperor... I would assume the likenesses/artwork took time to make it to the various mints - but production had to continue (very happy to be corrected on this point but I believe I am correct)..

    As an example - here is a coin of Trajan (not my coin) that certainly has the features of Nerva - so I assume struck very early in Trajan's reign..

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  6. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    That’s definitely looks like Trajan most likely early reign
     
  7. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Yes that is what I am saying... I just checked and it was struck within the first year of his reign. Of course it is Trajan but the portrait has the features (nose?) of Nera.. that is my point.

    Nerva:

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    Early Trajan:

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    Later Trajan:

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    So the reason you have the Gallic Empire Victorinus coin with a Marius-like portrait is most probably due to the coin being struck extremely early in Victorinus reign (which was very short to begin with).. a very tumultuous time... I believe this is the agreed reason but I am open to correction of course.
     
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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Maximinus Thrax denarii.jpg
    Maximinus Thrax as Severus Alexander...LOL
     
  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

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    Snarf, how the heck do you like that?! I've got a Marius with a Victorinus face???
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    Marius
    269 CE AE Antoninianus, Colonia lint (Köln), 269, 18 mm / 2.47 g
    IMP C M AVR MARIVS AVGRadiate, cuirassed bust rightR/ VICTORI - A AVGVictory standing facing, head left, palm in left hand, wreath in rightRIC V, 17; C.21, Elmer 638Porous obversefine/VF
     
  10. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I really want to click the "Best Answer" button!
     
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  11. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I think it's safe to say my Marius is the real Slim Shady. If you get that reference, congratulations, you are over 30 years old.:D

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  12. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    :woot::woot:
    Now I understand why the era called CHAOS
     
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  15. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Nope, just plain Victorinus...
     
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  16. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Yep.
     
  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Oh, it even gets more weird. The source that we are forced by lack of historical evidence to believe states Marius was Augustus for 2 or 3 days before the usurper was userped!??
    OK...but then where the heck did all these coins come from?
    ...my Victorianus:
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    VICTORINUS AntoninianusRIC 61, Providence
    OBV: IMP C VICTORINVS PF AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust rightREV: PROVIDENTIA AVG, Providence standing left, holding cornucopiae, globe at feet2.3g, 21mmMinted at Southern Mint, 268-270 AD.ex Bing
     
  18. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Either our source is wrong and it was really 2-3 month rule, or there are two other possibilities.

    Marius had modern coin presses

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    Or it was.....

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    Personally I think his reign was 2-3 months and someone botched the transcription of the text during the middle ages and put days where months should have gone. Probably some monk in a rush to get done so he would not be late for the evening meal. Remember, the reason we have ancient books around is because medieval monks copied the old books down, thus preserving the words for future generations. No matter how careful they were, I'm sure some mistakes were made.
     
  19. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Victorinus looking like Victorinus!

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    Victorinus, AD 269-271.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.63 g, 20.1 mm.
    Cologne (though CNG attributes this coin to Treveri), AD 269/70.
    Obv: IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS PF AVG, radiate, draped bust, r.
    Rev: FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing l., holding two standards.
    RIC-109; Cohen-36; AGK-5b; De Witte pl. XXVI, 22; Sear-unlisted.
     
  20. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ahaha...i see Nerva in there too^^
     
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  21. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    My Victorinus...is just Victorinus.

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