Unopened proof sets

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  1. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I would like some advice. As many of you know, there are so many of these ebay listing for "unopened " proof sets. Recently I bought a 1962. I opened it, and to my pleasant surprise, found a really nice set with a great cameo obverse Franklin half. I was hooked. The seller I purchased it from was sold out. I bought a different one from a different seller. I opened that one, and what did I find?? On the cellophane packaging was a sticker with ink writing on it, clearly put there by a shop owner, collecter, etc. After an angry email, the seller offered a full refund. Can anyone point me in a direction where I could possibly purchase some of these, and have them truly be unopened? Thanks.
     
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  3. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I could have sworn I've read there's no such thing as official "unopened" envelope proof sets. That is to say they were issued by the government in envelopes that weren't sealed. With this in mind, it is not so surprising you received one that had writing on the cellophane packaging.
     
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  4. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

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  5. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Not exactly true, A few years back I sold 20 unopened sets that were still in the original shipping box unopened. I sold them for a friend and the box went for $600. :D - Buyer never told me what he found inside. :( They were truly unopened sets!

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  6. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The sets in that box may have become sealed due to humidity, but those envelopes were shipped by the mint unsealed.
    The sets in that box may have never been searched, but when individual sets are sold, rest assured that they have been searched.
     
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  7. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Wow. Thank you. I feel real dumb now. I got caught up in the excitement of finding treasure.
     
  8. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I have no idea if the sets in the box were sealed or not, just the otter box was sealed which prevented me from determining what the condition of the sets inside were. I have no doubt that the sets shipped unsealed and what ever happened during the 50 years in a closet - happened. Hope they were all cameo franklins with a ting of nice toning on the outer edges of the coins. That said, these sets were truly unsearched and no one can dispute that.
     
  9. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Wait. Are you telling me that a 1956 set purchased in 2015 shouldn't have an advert from 2010 inside the sealed envelope? Lol

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  10. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    The box like I sold is a one in a million find. The likelihood that you will find any unsearched sets is extremely unlikely.
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Don't feel dumb.........we've all been through something like this and praise the Lord for this site of knowledgeable collectors. :)
     
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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    And Darryl? Had that box been mine I wouldn't be able to resist the temptation to tear into it. :)
     
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  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I've been right where you are, Nathan.
    I was taken in on a few of those.
    (I won't say how many, but I did get lucky selling them when silver went over $40.)
    I finally learned the truth here.
     
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  14. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    The $600 it would have cost me to do so just wasn't worth it - imagine spending that much money to find a badly toned and spotty group of coins. It would have made me sick. Would rather dream that the new owner found fresh cameo's. :)
     
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  15. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Well, if you never heard back from him I'm guessing he didn't find anything great, or else he had another buyer lined up and just
    re-sold the unopened box.
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I wouldn't go that far. About 8 years ago, Scotsman Auction had several listings for unopened shipping boxes postmarked 1956, 1957 & 1958. In total, there were about 100 sets in those packages. I know for a fact that they were not tampered with in any way because I know the person who wrote the descriptions for them, and he is above reproach.

    Chris
     
  17. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Maybe it's my nature, but I can't imagine anyone getting a proof set back then and not opening it. My father and I couldn't wait to tear into them.
     
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  18. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Same. I could care less about re-sale value. I never sell.
     
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  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I've handled sealed boxes such as this numerous times, some of them containing as many as 50 proof sets. I don't have any silver sets, but do have a few unopened boxes of the 1975-S proof sets. It's fun to think about the improbable existence of a No S dime in one of those sets . . . should I open it or shouldn't I? . . should I? . . shouldn't I? . .
     
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  20. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    You should.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I would. :)
     
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