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<p>[QUOTE="Blaubart, post: 2001119, member: 37498"]Wow. What a tough crowd.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't believe a buyer should be required or even expected know the difference in the type of boxes the US Mint used to ship coins 35 years ago. He's a coin collector, not a box collector. The burden in this case is entirely on the seller as they should know exactly what it is they're selling. If the buyer later learns that the box shown in the photo isn't the type that would have been used, then that's more evidence to support a claim.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why not search the SBA's for a near date variety? The difference in value between five uncirculated sets and five proof sets is what, about $10? The value of an uncirculated and ungraded 1979 SBA near date is about $5. Even if he finds one, he still comes out behind. If he really feels conflicted, he can communicate with the seller. He could tell him that he would like a refund of $10, but if he finds a variety, then he'd be willing to deduct the value of the variety from the refund he's requesting.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, the hassle and cost of shipping involved with returning the sets is more significant than any of the price differences listed. Nextcoin might as well base his decision to keep or return the coins on all the information he has available to him and do whatever he has to do to make the best of this situation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, if the seller listed 100 modern proof sets and the buyer received 100 silver proof sets, then the difference in value would be significant enough that it would present an ethical conflict if he chose to keep the coins without at least communicating with and offering to reimburse the seller.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the question posed by the OP, I have never purchased unopened Mint boxes from a third party, and I probably never will. I even passed on a good deal on a large auction of "sealed" envelope proof sets from 1960-1964 because the seller only offered a return if the envelopes remained sealed. It is my understanding that the US Mint did not seal the paper envelopes that contained these sets, so "sealed envelopes" is every bit as meaningful to me as "unsearched rolls".</p><p><br /></p><p>Whichever path you choose to take, good luck to you Nextcoin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Blaubart, post: 2001119, member: 37498"]Wow. What a tough crowd. I don't believe a buyer should be required or even expected know the difference in the type of boxes the US Mint used to ship coins 35 years ago. He's a coin collector, not a box collector. The burden in this case is entirely on the seller as they should know exactly what it is they're selling. If the buyer later learns that the box shown in the photo isn't the type that would have been used, then that's more evidence to support a claim. Why not search the SBA's for a near date variety? The difference in value between five uncirculated sets and five proof sets is what, about $10? The value of an uncirculated and ungraded 1979 SBA near date is about $5. Even if he finds one, he still comes out behind. If he really feels conflicted, he can communicate with the seller. He could tell him that he would like a refund of $10, but if he finds a variety, then he'd be willing to deduct the value of the variety from the refund he's requesting. To me, the hassle and cost of shipping involved with returning the sets is more significant than any of the price differences listed. Nextcoin might as well base his decision to keep or return the coins on all the information he has available to him and do whatever he has to do to make the best of this situation. Now, if the seller listed 100 modern proof sets and the buyer received 100 silver proof sets, then the difference in value would be significant enough that it would present an ethical conflict if he chose to keep the coins without at least communicating with and offering to reimburse the seller. As to the question posed by the OP, I have never purchased unopened Mint boxes from a third party, and I probably never will. I even passed on a good deal on a large auction of "sealed" envelope proof sets from 1960-1964 because the seller only offered a return if the envelopes remained sealed. It is my understanding that the US Mint did not seal the paper envelopes that contained these sets, so "sealed envelopes" is every bit as meaningful to me as "unsearched rolls". Whichever path you choose to take, good luck to you Nextcoin.[/QUOTE]
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