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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5140324, member: 56653"]Consider them as distinct issues:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. the first one has the privy mark O in the right field and no prow on the reverse and no issue recorded for Theodosius (although judging by the legend AVGGG there were three Augusti to account for and there is no Valens known for this type anywhere in the 11 mints that struck it, so it has to be an early 379 issue although RIC does not note any Theodosius; surely enough tho, there is at least one noted by Nummus Bible (see <a href="https://www.nummus-bible-database.com/monnaie-63181.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.nummus-bible-database.com/monnaie-63181.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>) and another uncertain) -- that is RIC 56a-c</p><p><br /></p><p>2. a possibly following issue with prow at Constantinopolis right foot and equally with no recorded specs for Theodosius, but at this point the privy marks start to vary, and there is at least one instance of O in the left field for Gratian and Valentinian II; this issue is rather rare and was likely short-lived -- that is RIC 57a-c</p><p><br /></p><p>3. a follow-up large issue with O in the left field with all Theodosius (and an extraordinary Arcadius), to which your Gratian spec confirms a (possibly meager) output in the name of Gratian, although he was the main imperial figure in 379; this issue makes up the bulk of AE3 coinage until at least early 383 and the scarcity to near extinction of specs naming Gratian (and probably none for Valentinian II) might suggest what we know from history, that once safe and confident enough on his position in the East, Theodosius reigned with strong assertion and as a de facto independent emperor -- that is RIC 57d-f and 58</p><p><br /></p><p>Your Gratian comes at 3. In RIC it should come between 57c and 57d but as the authors did not add this variation, we are left with adding it ourselves to our copies of RIC like good researchers.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5140324, member: 56653"]Consider them as distinct issues: 1. the first one has the privy mark O in the right field and no prow on the reverse and no issue recorded for Theodosius (although judging by the legend AVGGG there were three Augusti to account for and there is no Valens known for this type anywhere in the 11 mints that struck it, so it has to be an early 379 issue although RIC does not note any Theodosius; surely enough tho, there is at least one noted by Nummus Bible (see [URL='https://www.nummus-bible-database.com/monnaie-63181.htm']here[/URL]) and another uncertain) -- that is RIC 56a-c 2. a possibly following issue with prow at Constantinopolis right foot and equally with no recorded specs for Theodosius, but at this point the privy marks start to vary, and there is at least one instance of O in the left field for Gratian and Valentinian II; this issue is rather rare and was likely short-lived -- that is RIC 57a-c 3. a follow-up large issue with O in the left field with all Theodosius (and an extraordinary Arcadius), to which your Gratian spec confirms a (possibly meager) output in the name of Gratian, although he was the main imperial figure in 379; this issue makes up the bulk of AE3 coinage until at least early 383 and the scarcity to near extinction of specs naming Gratian (and probably none for Valentinian II) might suggest what we know from history, that once safe and confident enough on his position in the East, Theodosius reigned with strong assertion and as a de facto independent emperor -- that is RIC 57d-f and 58 Your Gratian comes at 3. In RIC it should come between 57c and 57d but as the authors did not add this variation, we are left with adding it ourselves to our copies of RIC like good researchers.[/QUOTE]
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