unlisted coins from group lots

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Sometimes I buy group lots for just one coin and this week I scored two unlisted coins.

    The first is a Constantine I from a group of 10 coins. It is not listed in Roman Imperial Coinage VII for the bust type with obverse legend; nor is it in Bastien's Le monnayage de l’atelier de Lyon (318–337). It should come after RIC VII Lyon 128,

    Constantine.jpg

    Constantine I
    A.D. 321
    CONSTANTINVS AVG; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    BEATA TRANQVILLITAS; globe set on altar inscribed VO/TIS/XX; above, three stars; C-R across fields.
    in ex. PLG
    RIC VII Lyon —; Bastien —




    This coin was also in a lot of 10. To say it is rare is an understatement. I have never had an example; but there are a few online. It is RIC VIII Rome 208, with an unlisted workshop. Bastien's Le monnayage de Magnence (350-353) has two examples from workshop B; but none known from workshop S.


    The reverse legend translates as “Renewal/rebirth of the city of Rome” in reference to the defeat of Nepotian.

    Decentius.jpg


    Decentius
    A.D. 350
    MAG DECENTIVS•N•CS•; bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    RENOBATIO VRBIS ROME; Roma helmeted std. l. on throne, holding Victory on globe and spear, beside her, a shield.
    In ex. RS
    RIC VIII Lyon 208; Bastien 465 (2 ex. for B)


    edited because I thought this coin was not in RIC
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2025
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  3. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Double congrats!

    Cool historical connection to Nepotian's defeat.

    And I really like the Decentius portrait -- expressive eyes in particular.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2025
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Congrats on those new additions, Victor. It's great that this group lot went to a specialist to see such rarities versus a newbie.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As a newbie Matt, I would have kept those for my collection. They have great character, and nice details. :happy:
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    They are for my collection.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am jealous. Nice finds.
     
  8. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Very cool!
     
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  9. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Submit to Koinon!
     
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  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    [QUOTE="Blake Davis, post: 26061352, member: 91820"Beautifully done - would love to know where you bought the group lot but I understand that that is privileged information; I started by buying group lots from Paganecoins - these were incredibly high grade fourth century coins - I believe Curtis Clay found a Jotopian (sp?) in one of the lots. The 100 coins lots would typically sell for between $300 to $400 - today these would go for ten times that price.][/QUOTE]

    He is an eBay seller that listed several group lots of ancients; but nothing since then. He doesn't seem to deal with ancients; but somehow acquired a group of them. I remember Pagane...lots of competition now for quality LRB's.
     
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  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I was reminiscing about group lots and thought that I would post my best coin ever from a group lot.

    Lot obv.jpg

    Lot rev.jpg

    VICTORIA.jpg


    It was a previously unknown type from Arles that I eventually sold to a museum in the city it was minted. Sometimes I wish that I had kept it; but it was nice to send it back home.

    https://constantinethegreatcoins.com/VICTORIA/
     
  13. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi @Victor_Clark,

    Out of curiosity, did you contact the museum, or did they contact you first?

    - Broucheion
     
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  14. Nicholas Molinari

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  15. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Their buyer contacted me after seeing an online post about the coin.
     
  16. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    I just found a very rare coin in a group lot - the coin is from a city that was discovered in 1978 in Caria. The city is called Kranaos, the coin was struck around 300BC is copper, 11mm, 1.28 grams. This is the far better example from CNG research. The city is discussed in A. Walker, "Kranaos, A new mint in Caria" in SM 112 (1978), p. 87, fig. 3 and 4;[​IMG]
     
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