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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TuckHard, post: 3814466, member: 102653&quot;]<p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]1016550[/ATTACH] </p><p>Hello everyone! I&#039;m looking for any information about this seal or design that is on tin coins from Southeast Asia! I&#039;ve now found 3 examples of the pentagon seal/design which is intriguing because they are all significantly different coins and designs. I&#039;ve been studying the tin coins from pre-Islamic Indonesia and Malaysia for several months now and have always found these pieces an anomaly but with the addition of a third example, I decided to see if anyone else knew anything. I&#039;d guess the age of the coin to be around 1300-1450 AD as one of the coins copies the cash coin (square hole) design of Chinese coins that became common/imitated in Sumatra and Java in the 14th Century. It also features Buddhist symbols that largely fell out of favor in Sumatra sometime around 1450ish? I&#039;m not sure about this date. Any help or assistance would be appreciated!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016549[/ATTACH] </p><p>Example 1, &quot;Numista Buddhist Example&quot; is attributed to the Srivijaya Empire and shows a plain obverse with the seal. Per the description, &quot;Five - pointed increase in the mid of the coin&quot;. The reverse shows the Bodhisattva of Compassion (Guanyin). The left characters read &quot;Guan Yun Pu Sa&quot; meaning Guan Yin Bodhisattva. I found on Wikipedia that Guan Yun Pu Sa is Malaysian Mandarin; &quot;the name is GuanYin Pusa (GuanYin Bodhisattva)&quot;. The right characters translate to Safe Trip Wherever You Go. Weight is 9.51g and 27.3mm wide, 3.3mm thick.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016551[/ATTACH] </p><p>Example 2, &quot;Zeno Cash Example&quot; is possibly attributed to the Srivijaya Empire. The obverse shows the seal design copied 4 times around a crude square center hole. There is some doubling on the bottom design. The reverse has at least eight small punchmarks that are are similar to plus (+) marks inside of a small circle. There are four main punches roughly around the square hold but also much lighter punches between the four main ones. The poster, brutus57, says that it was a Palembang find and that the punchmarks are similar to some found on Bangka cash coins/gongsi tokens.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016548[/ATTACH] </p><p>Example 3, &quot;eBay Ribbon/Fish Example&quot; is a much thicker tin coin than the others. The seal design on the obverse is off centered by a bit. The reverse shows a ribbon or fish design. I messaged the seller and they attributed it to the Samudera Pasai Kingdom and says that the &quot;ribbon logo&quot; is identical to Samudera Pasai but I have been unable to find anything matching the reverse to any other documented coins from Samudera Pasai. The seller also referred to the main pentagon seal design as a &quot;boat design&quot;.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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