Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by VD76, Jun 21, 2021.
0.7 gram / 16 mm
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@dltsrq's point is dead on; @seth77 just lately mentioned the profusion of French feudal coins that found their way to, and circulated in, the Crusader states. ...But I can't figure out what the obverse motif is. Even the reverse, with the annulets in each angle of the cross, is uncharacteristic of coins of either series. Why I'm thinking that maybe it's German, Italian, or (politically) a combination of the two. Whatever it is, this is Not among 'the usual suspects' for the milieu.
@FitzNigel, your first instincts were better; four pellets, Not annulets, are de rigueur for Norman issues, whether late 10th or early 12th century. Had the celators evolved all the way from pellets to annulets, Then, Just Maybe, they'd have been capable of legible legends. To paraphrase Burning Spear, 'Highly-I Unlikely-I.' ...If you're citing Dumas, Fecamp, it's like, Nope, nothing to see here.
More impressionistically, this is looking more 12th than even 11th century. Along those lines, I'm seconding (....no comment: )@Bluntflame.
As of now, no one who's posted here has better than an intelligent guess. Since seveal people --at least for any context involving non-Byzantine medievals-- have already done that much, I'm waiting for someone to weigh in who actually has the right (expletive of choice) book.
Templar cross, nice!
@FitzNigel, Many thanks for that! It would be great to find out what chronological range she's referring to (thank you again, specifically in reference to the annulets).
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And it looks even more like a late Norman coin.
@seth77. Idm still frankly stumped by the annulets vs. pellets. Can you cite anything accessible online for that? ...Only a little more rhetorically, do you think anything approaching a comprehensive cataloguing of 11th-12th-c. Norman coins will be done in our lifetime?
See my above post.
Seeing the Zeus example, it is DEFINITIVELY Dumas XIX-15. What’s weird, is that Dumas has it pictured upside-down!
edit - never mind. I took another look, and I think they are the same
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