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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Tejas, post: 7828992, member: 84905&quot;]I think the coin I posted was from Wildwinds (need to find it again). But here is a very similar piece from the University of Münster in Germany. They also attribute it - correctly as I think - to the official mint of Rome (you have to scroll down a bit)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.uni-muenster.de/Numismatik/muenzedesmonats/mdm2018.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.uni-muenster.de/Numismatik/muenzedesmonats/mdm2018.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.uni-muenster.de/Numismatik/muenzedesmonats/mdm2018.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1345013[/ATTACH] </p><p>Flavius Procopius Anthemius (um 420–472 n. Chr.) | Gold, Solidus, 4,42 g, 22 mm, <b>Münzstätte Rom,</b> 467–472 n. Chr. | Av.: D N ANTHEMI-VS P F AVG, Panzerbüste des Anthemius mit Helm, Schild und Speer | Rv.: SALVS REI P-V-BLICAE / COMOB. Kaiser Anthemius und Kaiser Leo I. in Rüstung und Mantel, einander die Hand reichend; darüber Schild mit PAX; im Feld links R, im Feld rechts M | RIC X Anthemius 2804 | Münzkabinett | Berlin, Objektnummer 18201533</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Found it. Yes the coin is on Wildwinds:</p><p><a href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/anthemius/t.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/anthemius/t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/anthemius/t.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>just as several other highly &quot;barbaric&quot; solidi of Anthemius, which are attributed to official mints like Rome, Ravenna and Milan.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, there were no barbarians, Germanic or otherwise, around at the time to whom these coins could be attributed. Instead, I think what happened is that control over the official mints deteriorated. They probably lacked resources (craftsmen, artists, perhaps tools) to produce high-standard coins and could only produce coins of &quot;barbaric&quot; style.</p><p><br /></p><p>Indeed, this is also what happened later in the Germanic kingdoms. While the style of Ostrogothic coins remained superior even to that of their pendants from Constantinople, Visigothic and Frankish coins deteriorated. This is not because these people wished to express their native style or their barbarism on coins, but simply because they lacked the resources to produce better coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are very rare exceptions to this. The solidus below was found in Germany north of the Limes. The coin does reflect something that is genuinely Germanic, i.e. linked to Germanic art and style that is clearly not just imitating Roman style (the coin is a dream):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1345012[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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