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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Theoderic, post: 7826922, member: 110471&quot;]I posted this coin before but here is my Leo I tremissis in a somewhat barbarian style.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1344852[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1344853[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>AV Tremissis (14 mm, 1.47 grams, 6h), circa A.D. 457-474</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Obverse</b>: D N LEO PE-NPET AVC, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right</p><p><b>Reverse</b>: VICTORIV AVCVSTORVN, Victory walking right, head left, holding wreath in right hand and globus cruciger in left; star in right field; CONOB in exergue</p><p><b>Reference</b>: cf. RIC X 611 for type</p><p><b>Provenance</b>: Ex Elsen 87 (March 11, 2006), Lot 1848; Dürr &amp; Michel (November 8, 1999), Lot 377, Guy Lacam collection</p><p><br /></p><p>Elsen listed it as a Germanic issue but I was always puzzled why they specified it as being from an &quot;uncertain Italian mint&quot;.&nbsp; Reading Tejas above comments made me realize that no doubt they were merely following Vecchi&#039;s attribution.&nbsp; I&#039;m wondering if I need to move this coin from the Early Medieval section of my collection to the Roman.&nbsp; The border between these two areas is shadowy and ever-changing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hrefn, you commented that gold coins intended for emergency barbarian payments might have been minted at the official Constantinople in a sub-standard &quot;barbarian&quot; style, but that those issues would likely be in solidi and not tremissis.&nbsp; I agree with that general reasoning, but as you also observed, the western Germanic tribes preferred the tremissis standard so is it possible that they would demand that their payments be received as such regardless of how difficult it would be for the eastern Empire to produce them?&nbsp; Can these strange Leo I tremissis be survivors of western barbarian payments?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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