United States (New York): nickel silver private pattern cent, Feuchtwanger's Composition, 1837

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How interesting/appealing do you find this item, whether or not you're an expert? (1=worst, 10=best)

  1. 10

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%
  2. 9

    11 vote(s)
    29.7%
  3. 8

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%
  4. 7

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  5. 6

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  6. 5

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    United States (New York): nickel silver private pattern cent, Feuchtwanger's Composition, 1837
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    Obverse: Eagle right, wings spread, seizing a serpent in its talons.
    Reverse: * FEUCHTWANGER'S * COMPOSITION surrounding wreath, denomination within.
    Issuer: Dr. Lewis Feuchtwanger, New York City, USA.
    Specifications: Nickel-silver, 18.5 mm.
    Grade: PCGS AU53; cert. #37443543.
    Reference: PCGS-20001, Numista-40701, HT-268.
    Provenance: ex-Ex-David Lawrence Rare Coins, Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA, 7 February, 2020.
    Notes: Dr. Feuchtwanger was a German immigrant physician, metallurgist, and chemist who ran a pharmacy in New York City. These tokens were produced as a private pattern proposal to replace the large cents of the time. His proposal was denied by the Mint, but his tokens ended up being widely circulated in the wake of the Panic of 1837, which had caused a severe shortage of small change. They proved practical to the needs of commerce and were less cumbersome than the government-issued large cents. Feuchtwanger cents are catalogued with the Hard Times Tokens, and many varieties of them exist. He also produced 3-cent tokens with two different designs in 1837 and 1864, all of which are rare today.
    Comments: Feuchtwanger was 20 years ahead of the government in producing a small cent. His "German silver" alloy (which contained no actual silver) stood the test of time well, too. Most pieces retain a pleasingly mellowed silver color today, some 180 years after they were produced.


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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

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  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    That is wonderful, never seen one before. I gave it 9.
    Is it an overdate variety or just damage
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Thanks. That's a known (and as far as I know, rather common) variety, with that blundered 7 like that. It's not really an overdate, though. These were a one-year type.

    It's just some sort of die engraving anomaly. The specialists may have more to say on that. PCGS would not have straight-graded it if that had been damage!

    I voted "9" in the poll myself.
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I love it! Talk about unique! Patterns like that are exotic and interesting. A solid 9+ for high interest and exclusivity.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This is a pattern that mere mortals (like yours truly) can afford. Low 3-figures instead of 4- or 5-figures.
     
  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I know. Most patterns are insanely priced. I have always loved the unique aspects of trial and personal patterns. It does take ample resources to collect and acquire them. That one is a beautiful specimen of the type!
     
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  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    One comment, he wasn't "granted" permission to coin them, he simply did and there was no law at the time to forbid it. Same as for the issuers of all the other hard times tokens. There was a shortage of coinage for change and some merchants stepped in to fill the local needs. Same thing happened with the civil war tokens. There was no law forbidding the issuance of tokens to be used as money until 1863.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    From the NGC article:
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I would say they are most likely wrong. In December of 1837 they were still debating his proposal, and if they had given him permission in 1838 I would think there would be Feuchtwanger cents dated 1838. Of course his proposal to Congress was to supply the metal to the Mint, not to make the coins.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    OK, I'll see about retooling the wording in the OP, then. Thanks for the clarification.

    Edit: OP rewritten.
     
  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    First time I have seen one also, very nice coin. 7
     
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Very interesting history. Thanks for the post @lordmarcovan. I find this type of oddity very interesting and educational. I've never seen one of these before, so it was nice to view an example. Thank you.
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    They've been listed in the Red Book for as long as I can remember. Those less-traveled sections of the book (Colonials, Tokens, Territorials, Philippines & Hawaii, etc.) always interested me.
     
  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Yeah, being dyslexic, I often don't read reference material from front to back, so I wouldn't have seen it, but now that I know it's there, I will read it. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    There's a lot of cool stuff hiding in the Red Book. More material seems to be included than was the case when I was young. It's been decades since I read it cover to cover myself, but it's fun to skim through.

    Happily, not all of that seldom-seen material is unobtainable, once one notices it.

    I've always been a "road less traveled" kinda guy, I reckon.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I find it interesting but unappealing.
     
  19. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Nice article...like the obverse eagle and serpent...thanks for posting...was very interesting...Spark
     
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  20. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Well, I suppose I'll be a bit of a contrarian on this one. :D While I appreciate the historical background/history, & it certainly has that "183 year old look" (which I like :happy:), the artwork, to me, is, well not very attractive...:(...well done, but not attractive....to me.

    I give it a 3. :eek::rolleyes:
     
  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I voted 8. I find the design and composition interesting and consider them as one of the more common but interesting hard times tokens which I appreciate but not a field I collect would I buy one if it came along of course but not a coin I ever felt a huge desire to have in my collection.but I definitely appreciate them and find them cool
     
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