United States: bronze proof Indian Head cent, 1881

Mighty purdy coin.

 

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Re-holdering will not change the grade, only get rid of the bad scratches on such a nice piece.

 

Will add my 2 (more) cents to this: Not RB according to everything I've seen/read about the designation. Yes, there is some red...but there's much more brown, and in indirect, non-reflective light it's brown. Light can be made to accentuate/extract color to an artificial degree, as evidenced by cents I've bought/received (my mistakes, early on) expecting to see the "red" cent in the photos (not the description...they all say "you be the judge"..."judge for yourself," etc.) only to be disappointed on arrival.

 

With copper there is a 10 year period. If the period expires, then there is no reholdering without a regrade. See below when looking up the cert number of this coin at NGC.

"Copper Coins Notice: Coins made of copper, bronze, brass or are copper-plated can change over time. Accordingly, with regard to copper, bronze, brass or copper-plated coins graded by NGC, the grade portion will no longer apply after the 10 year anniversary of their date of encapsulation by NGC. This coin was encapsulated on 12/28/2004 and the grade guarantee will expire on 12/28/2014. If the grade guarantee has not expired, it may be extended by submitting the coin under NGC's ReHolder service tier. If the grade guarantee has expired, the coin will be treated as a raw (ungraded) submission if resubmitted to NGC."

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/1663649-015/65/

 

Scratches can be buffed out with automotive rubbing and polishing compound, and car wax.

 

Cheaper and less time to re-holder, and a much better holder.

 

See my post above. It is cheaper to reholder but in this case the coin will be considered raw and there is no guarantee it will remain the same grade.

 

I gave it a 9. Pretty coin.

 

I collect IHC of this era. It is indeed an attractive coin, however it is not RB, rather in my estimation it is BROWN. I own many similar Proof Indian cents and have paid in the $285-$425 range for them depending on their individual toning. Everyone of them is different, and I prefer the "Blueberries", which are the ones that have turned a bluish purple. Those I pay a premium for. I also would pay a premium for ones that show a golden "highlight" around the portrait, headdress and devices. To be considered "RB" in my mind there actually has to be 20% or more "red" still evident.

Don't get me wrong, this is a nice coin and at the right price I would add it to my collection. But I gave this coin an "8" as there are other examples that have more exquisite toning. And I don't have any interest in Proof Indians of this era that are fully RED, and trade at substantial premiums to this coin. Eventually all of those "RED" IHC will tone to RB and eventually Brown. Go ahead and look at Draped Bust Half and Large cents and you will see what an additional 50 years will do.

 

I'll bet this is correct. It was more red when slabbed.

 

hey lordmarcovan you got yourself 1 outstandiong coin. the picture with the black background shows your coin the best IMO, great job getting this coin. good luck to ya sir

 

Since the grade expired 7 years ago, then it doesn't really matter anyway. I would re grade the coin just to have the newer clean holder without the bad scratches.

 

I gave it a 10. Beautiful looking!