United States: bronze proof Indian Head cent, 1881

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How interesting/appealing do you find this coin, whether or not you're an expert? (1=worst, 10=best)

  1. 10

    8 vote(s)
  2. 9

    15 vote(s)
  3. 8

    5 vote(s)
  4. 7

    4 vote(s)
  5. 6

    5 vote(s)
  6. 5

    3 vote(s)
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
  8. 3

    0 vote(s)
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I love the 3rd picture down with the black background. The toning on the wreath is outstanding.
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Casual Collector / error expert "in Training "

    I agree with @furryfrog02 , nice toning and outstanding Wreath !! Never saw or owned a PF IHC . Nice buy !!
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  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I like these Proofs. I gave it an 8. I am not sure about the “R&B.” Looks more like a Brown to me.
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  6. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I gave it 6. Primarily because I think it is only marginally RB, if that. Otherwise, I think it is a 8. If I was buying, I would look to not pay a premium RB price for this one.

    That said, I have seen many IHC proofs that were not as pretty.
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    I agree with y'all about it being more BN rather than RB. One wonders if it mellowed in the slab over time. I think that is a relatively older slab.

    But the distinction between BN and RB doesn't matter so much to me if the toning and eye appeal are there.
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Neither would I, but I'm in it for $435. So taking a quick glance at the NGC priceguide, that looks to be around 64 RB price, and well below the 65 BN price, as of this posting.

    If it's truly a 65, I reckon I did OK, even if it's only a BN.

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  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    9. great color.
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  10. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Publius that it doesn't look RB. I, too, gave it a 6. I considered calling it lower because of the lack of red color, though the toning is attractive.
  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Very appealing...I'd have it re-holdered.
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Thought about it- maybe trying a cross to PCGS, and adding TrueView imaging- but I dunno. (I certainly wouldn't specify RB, but I'd not want to see it lose a point and drop from 65 to 64.) It's too old a holder for the NGC guarantee on copper, I believe.

    Still, some TrueViews might capture the color better. The existing images were shot through the NGC slab.
  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Excellent eye appeal with great toning. I voted 10
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  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is gorgeous. Totally beautiful coin, with great surface preservation and wonderful color. I would not have it reholdered—it is worth more in the older slab. It is perfect just the way it is. I disagree with the BN crowd—think it is marginally RB. Overall, a stunning coin!
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  15. William Bailey

    William Bailey New Member

    An exceptionally beautiful coin indeed!
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    6...A little dark but looks like it pops in the right light (common to have that with many proofs)
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  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I agree that crossing/reholdering does not seem worth it-especially with the risk of losing a point and or the RB. It's solid as-is.
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  18. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Indeed NICE. No penalty this time on the inverted reverse photo :). If these TPGs would just "get the picture," and humble themselves a bit by correcting their reverse labels.
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  19. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I have to say the original question "How interesting/appealing..." leaves quite a bit of room for interpretation in how to formulate an answer. First of all, I found LM's cent to be quite appealing on its own merits. But, I found it's grade unappealing because I didn't think it merited a RB designation and was thus likely to be over-priced. Is it an "interesting" coin? Not really because I don't discern any unusual/rare variety or error characteristics. But all nice proof IHCs are interesting to some degree when they don't appear to have been messed with.
  20. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Florida girls have to love walking there sharks.

    Very nice proof thats what I'm looking for it appears to be RB to me.
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  21. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    It really doesn't matter. It is a wonderful piece and you did well.
    I have stated my opinion before concerning rb/b/br/r.
    The coin is the coin, and yours is an outstanding example.
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