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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 26681049, member: 66"]The Spiked Chin is not <b>A</b> variety, it is actually four varieties, and the obv die was actually used on FIVE varieties. It was first used to strike C-3 and on that one it did not have the spiked chin. Then the bolt got smashed and that same pair of dies, with the spiked chin, was called C-5. The damaged die was then paired with three more reverse dies to create C-6, C-7, and C-8. C-5 is scarce, C-6 is common but hard to get because the reverse breaks down spectacularly with something like 22 different cataloged dies stages. Many half cent collectors collect it by die stage so the high demand makes it harder to find. C-7 is rare, the second rarest of the 1804 varieties. C-8 is common, but since the other spiked chins are tough for other reasons it pushes the average collector that wants a spiked chin to the C-8 increasing the demand there. </p><p><br /></p><p>All of the Spiked Chins shown so far in the thread are C-8's except Clawcoins. The image is too dark to say too much about it but it is NOT a Spiked Chin, and it either is not an 1804 or it may not be real. It has the narrow A in half and the leaves in the cluster to the right of the F both extend above the F. Those were last used in 1802 on the 1802 rev of 1800.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now for what the Obv die looked like shortly after the bolt got mashed, here is a high grade early die stage C-5.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1702481[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This is the rev of C-6 in Manley Stage 11</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1702482[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And this is a C-8 identifiable by the dull die crack from the upright of R in AMERICA to the rim. It is also clearly visible on the other C-8's in the thread.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1702483[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 26681049, member: 66"]The Spiked Chin is not [B]A[/B] variety, it is actually four varieties, and the obv die was actually used on FIVE varieties. It was first used to strike C-3 and on that one it did not have the spiked chin. Then the bolt got smashed and that same pair of dies, with the spiked chin, was called C-5. The damaged die was then paired with three more reverse dies to create C-6, C-7, and C-8. C-5 is scarce, C-6 is common but hard to get because the reverse breaks down spectacularly with something like 22 different cataloged dies stages. Many half cent collectors collect it by die stage so the high demand makes it harder to find. C-7 is rare, the second rarest of the 1804 varieties. C-8 is common, but since the other spiked chins are tough for other reasons it pushes the average collector that wants a spiked chin to the C-8 increasing the demand there. All of the Spiked Chins shown so far in the thread are C-8's except Clawcoins. The image is too dark to say too much about it but it is NOT a Spiked Chin, and it either is not an 1804 or it may not be real. It has the narrow A in half and the leaves in the cluster to the right of the F both extend above the F. Those were last used in 1802 on the 1802 rev of 1800. Now for what the Obv die looked like shortly after the bolt got mashed, here is a high grade early die stage C-5. [ATTACH=full]1702481[/ATTACH] This is the rev of C-6 in Manley Stage 11 [ATTACH=full]1702482[/ATTACH] And this is a C-8 identifiable by the dull die crack from the upright of R in AMERICA to the rim. It is also clearly visible on the other C-8's in the thread. [ATTACH=full]1702483[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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