Unique PDS Matte Proof Classic Commems!

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  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    As many of you know, I've been banned on the PCGS forums. That's too bad because I miss the Humor thread and Picture Friday thread the most. I still check them out each week.

    For those interested, check out the discussion on the Matte Proof Boone half dollars. Members are wondering why the coins only grade 63. The answer should be very OBVIOUS!

    See if you can figure it out.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Not familiar with how matte proofs should look. Is a clue of what is wrong the white marks tracing the hairline at the back?

    If I saw these normally I would agree with one poster they look like they have been antiqued.
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else

    Was the lack of any real detail on the reverses deliberate? The figures, their clothing and hair etc all look flat and lack any real definition
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Don't over think this. Look at the coins.

    Their surface is "special." It is called "Matte." That's why they look so different.
    Now, Breen gave them a much higher grade than PCGS. Besides the passage of time and changes in the grading standards, why did they only grade 63 at PCGS?

    Hint: After a coin is graded MS, what thins determine the #?

    What are you thinking? READ THE DESCRIPTION...the coins are EXTREMELY detailed.
     
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  6. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

     
  7. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat dave700x -1883 O nut

    I'm guessing the matte finish was applied after the coin was minted? Technically should be PR details, altered surfaces....:rolleyes:
     
  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Matte finish did a number on the luster.
     
  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else

    Luster is poor and there are faint lines over the fields and some of the devices
     
  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder

    These are graded PR63, not MS63, so I'm guessing it's the presence of hairlines,which I have always thought was the main grade limiting factor on uncirculated proof coins
     
  11. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Not sure what I'm missing, but there isn't any photo(s) attached to this post on my browser, so I can't see what others are talking about.
     
  12. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else

    you need to go on the pcgs forum and read the thread there
     
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  13. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I think this thread is being referred to: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1041712/unique-pds-matte-proof-classic-commems
    I am not sure why the coins have this grade.

    After a coin is determined MS, or PF, I believe surface preservation is the primary factor in the determining the numerical grade. Perhaps it's because of the spots on the coins? Also, there are a lot of lines to the right of the portrait on the S mint coin.
     
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Ain't going to happen as I hate having to "work" at trying to figure out what the poster means. If I had adequate download available and not Hughes Net, I might. Even if the poster had taken the time to post a link, I wouldn't have clicked on it. But maybe that's just me.
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    Looks like beginners using acid on coins to have a matte surface. Is this another 1959 wheat cent?
     
  16. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else

    @Mountain Man here are the coins from the thread
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  17. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    That was kind of you.
     
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  18. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else

    Thats what this "Family" is for
     
  19. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    @Insider acts retarded on purpose and uses that as an excuse to not use technology to the fullest.
     
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  20. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Wow, where did that come from sir? I enjoy his educational posts, and was able to find the thread easily with a simple Google search.
     
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  21. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    Or he could of just posted a link.
     
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