Unidentified ancient coin, need help???

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by chucktheaggie, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Hello All,
    I found this coin last week and am very curious if any of the forum members might be able to identify this coin.
    To me it looks ancient, but I could be wrong.
    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks to all the members!
    - Chuck
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  3. Colby J.

    Colby J. Well-Known Member

    Better pictures please. Try using a brighter camera with a plain background so we can id it. Something like this: (mine for example) 32303440_Unknown.JPG
     
  4. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Will do, just realized not the best pictures. Will add. Thanks Colby.
     
  5. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Here's a quick pic, a little clearer. Have to upgrade my camera to get closer up and still have it clear. Will borrow a better camera tomorrow morning. Hope this pic kinda helps.
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  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    A tough one with the encrustations... the reverse legend starts with VIRTVS... that's about all I can tell you.

    The reverse looks like a standing figure with a scepter holding something.

    If you can get a clearer photo of the bust on the obverse, we may be able to narrow it down more. Is the obverse bust wearing a radiate crown or a laurel?

    *also what's the size in mm? It looks pretty small. If it's 15-16mm, it's probably late roman. If larger, maybe 3rd century roman.
     
  7. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Hello Orange Julius,
    Thank you for the time and effort you put into responding to my post. It is appreciated.
    The size of the coin is 15-16mm- you're spot on.
    Unfortunately on the obverse side, it is heavily encrusted. Will see if I can get a better picture of the obverse tomorrow.
    Thanks Orange Julius for the info - take care.
    - Chuck
     
  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    If I were forced to guess, I'd say it was from the late 4th - early 5th century. Something like this VIRTVS EXERCITI of Honorius from A.D. 395-401 (photo from Wildwinds, not mine):
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    Looks like a good argument in favor of electrolysis.
     
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  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Could be from just about anyone. The spear or scepter is in the figure's left hand and the figure's right arm is raised. Perhaps something more like this one of Gallienus?

    Gallienus VIRTVS AVG Mars globe and spear antoninianus.jpg
     
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  10. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Great. Thanks for all the wonderful info gsimonel and Roman Collector.
    So how would one go about getting an electrolysis treatment? Is it coin worth the cost?
    I'm sorry but I'm a newbie and have always been told NOT to clean coins- ever. But if it will help solve the mystery, I'ld be willing to pay for it. I almost have to, the mystery is killing me. Must be the coin bug LOL.
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    You're welcome, but that coin wouldn't be worth it in terms of profit. But would it be worth it to satisfy your curiosity? Maybe!
     
  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Here's a couple of links to get you started. They are old, though. Current consensus is that you should not use salt alone as the solute because it turns the water acidic, which will damage the surface of your coin. Instead, either mix baking soda in with the salt or use sodium carbonate (Arm & Hammer washing soda, usually available in the laundry-detergent aisle) as your solute. I use sodium carbonate--cheap and effective.
    https://department.monm.edu/classics/COINS/data/cleaning/electrolysis.htm
    http://www.mycoincollecting.com/collecting/cleaning-coins-electrolysis.html
     
  13. chucktheaggie

    chucktheaggie New Member

    Thank You very much gsimonel! That was very considerate of you, thanks! Have a great day- take care. - Chuck
     
  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    My pleasure. If you do clean it, via electrolysis or some other way, I think we would in be interested in seeing how it turns out. Good luck.
     
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