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<p>[QUOTE="catadc, post: 3553160, member: 103515"]The thread should have as motto "if you want a nice coin, buy one" (Doug Smith). Cleaning should not be done for the material outcome. If I take my hourly charge rate used by my employer and calculate the cost of cleaning, most of the slugs would worth the equivalent of a nice sestertius. Instead, is more on the intangible side, as Suarez pointed above.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have serious doubts that any super-rare coins of common emperors will ever recover the price paid for the lot. For approx. 75 coins that I decided to keep, I found 3 that are rated Rare in Helvetica's Excels (great work, that one) and have enough detail for full attribution, but those AE3/4 would be probably worth as much as a cup of coffee. </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the education factor is arguable.</p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 16px"><font face="Verdana"><span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)">Regarding the attribution experience, it happened that I surfed ebay, stopped at a lot and tried to attribute the coins, just for fun (do not need the coin in hand to practice attribution).</span></font></span></p><p>It helps clearly on the cleaning side, if I ever get a nicer coin that would require cleaning. It helps with the experience of feeling the metal, patina, corrosion and how a coin is worn. There is low future use for this experience if I ever decide to go for anything else than bronze.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have a feeling that any LRB collector will be seen as the poor relative of the collectors' family and that all expect for an "upgrade" in the future. I can picture some of the experienced users surfing this thread with almost the same enthusiasm as picking through the tips jar in an L.A. bar (yes, I googled for the biggest port in USA...). Although, re-reading this, sound a bit frustrated, the truth is that I am a bit fond of my slugs and I will keep them irrespective what I will collect in the future, the same way I kept the modern slugs inherited from my father (and those are worth even less than the ones posted here). They will remind me of a few nice hours spent together. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> And although a sestertius might have a nicer voice, a LRB can still have one.</p><p><br /></p><p>I started this post with the intention to detail a bit why starting this thread, and not to write the 4 paragraphs above. Well, is a diary after all, so I wrote a few thoughts extra... Before starting this project, I looked for others' illustrated experience. I found an old site with review of lots cleaned, with pictures (misplaced the link meanwhile) and Doug's.</p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/uncleaned.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/uncleaned.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/uncleaned.html</a></p><p>Out of the 75 coins mentioned above, found only one camp gate (#8) and one city commemorative (#5), both very worn and not fully attributable, and no #6 (Jupiter or Sol) and no #12 (three emperors). It might be just the luck that my sample is different. It might be that a bigger newbie than me would hope for gold or silver and would like to hear a recent story. Wanted to show the poorer, uglier and real face of one tiny part the hobby.</p><p><br /></p><p>Update on the ongoing project: two really bad slugs liberated from their prison of encrustations. Probably not going to take photos, so to compensate for this and for the other slugs posted - the one below was part of a small lot that will probably be kept uncleaned.[ATTACH=full]944390[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]944391[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="catadc, post: 3553160, member: 103515"]The thread should have as motto "if you want a nice coin, buy one" (Doug Smith). Cleaning should not be done for the material outcome. If I take my hourly charge rate used by my employer and calculate the cost of cleaning, most of the slugs would worth the equivalent of a nice sestertius. Instead, is more on the intangible side, as Suarez pointed above. I have serious doubts that any super-rare coins of common emperors will ever recover the price paid for the lot. For approx. 75 coins that I decided to keep, I found 3 that are rated Rare in Helvetica's Excels (great work, that one) and have enough detail for full attribution, but those AE3/4 would be probably worth as much as a cup of coffee. I believe the education factor is arguable. [LEFT][SIZE=16px][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=rgb(20, 20, 20)]Regarding the attribution experience, it happened that I surfed ebay, stopped at a lot and tried to attribute the coins, just for fun (do not need the coin in hand to practice attribution).[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT] It helps clearly on the cleaning side, if I ever get a nicer coin that would require cleaning. It helps with the experience of feeling the metal, patina, corrosion and how a coin is worn. There is low future use for this experience if I ever decide to go for anything else than bronze. I have a feeling that any LRB collector will be seen as the poor relative of the collectors' family and that all expect for an "upgrade" in the future. I can picture some of the experienced users surfing this thread with almost the same enthusiasm as picking through the tips jar in an L.A. bar (yes, I googled for the biggest port in USA...). Although, re-reading this, sound a bit frustrated, the truth is that I am a bit fond of my slugs and I will keep them irrespective what I will collect in the future, the same way I kept the modern slugs inherited from my father (and those are worth even less than the ones posted here). They will remind me of a few nice hours spent together. :) And although a sestertius might have a nicer voice, a LRB can still have one. I started this post with the intention to detail a bit why starting this thread, and not to write the 4 paragraphs above. Well, is a diary after all, so I wrote a few thoughts extra... Before starting this project, I looked for others' illustrated experience. I found an old site with review of lots cleaned, with pictures (misplaced the link meanwhile) and Doug's. [url]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/uncleaned.html[/url] Out of the 75 coins mentioned above, found only one camp gate (#8) and one city commemorative (#5), both very worn and not fully attributable, and no #6 (Jupiter or Sol) and no #12 (three emperors). It might be just the luck that my sample is different. It might be that a bigger newbie than me would hope for gold or silver and would like to hear a recent story. Wanted to show the poorer, uglier and real face of one tiny part the hobby. Update on the ongoing project: two really bad slugs liberated from their prison of encrustations. Probably not going to take photos, so to compensate for this and for the other slugs posted - the one below was part of a small lot that will probably be kept uncleaned.[ATTACH=full]944390[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]944391[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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