uncleaned coins - before and after

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by singig, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Sorry, a bit late. But this coin has horn silver deposits on it and would greatly benefit from soaking in a sodium thiosulphate solution.

    Also, a few of my recent cleaning projects, with a brief description:
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    For silver coins I find the iron oxide (ie rust) the most difficult to remove. It's extremely hard. I would probably have to use a stronger acid than I'm used to.
     
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the tip! Now I gotta find some of the stuff...
     
  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Could this coin also benefit from cleaning?

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  5. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I think it could benefit from cleaning, but it'd be very tough going... :shifty: that green doesn't give up without a fight.

    Edit: if you even did a little, I'd start only on the obverse bust and legend.
     
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  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Bad photos but this Domitian denarius was bought from $9. It was covered with a black rocky crud. When I bought it, I could see good silver underneath so I was hoping the crud would come off. Anyway with several hours of picking, most of it did come off and revealed a pretty nice coin for the price.
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    Tools... a toothpick, fingernails and time.... there's still some discoloration I haven't tackled but may leave it like this. Sometimes, I wish I kept the crud on the coin as you don't see many sliver coins of this era left as-found.
     
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  7. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    The depositions on your coin are horn silver and should dissolve in sodium thiosulphate.
     
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  8. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Is there a household name for that chemical? How risky (to myself and the coin) to use? Thanks!
     
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  9. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I would try magic soup, it melts the green stuff.
     
  10. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    If you search for horn silver and my name, you’ll find a lot of threads where I give a detailed walk through on the restoration of silver coins with HS
     
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  11. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Fausta after a few lye baths:

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  12. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    It got a lot of the crispness and detail back. She's not hiding any more. I've been thinking about getting some lye for the occasional, more in-depth coin cleaning projects I have lye-ing around. ;)

    Edit: Here is the before. (I had to go hunting to find it. Saving others the hassle :D)
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  13. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    That red stuff is incredibly hard to scrape off.
     
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  14. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I don't doubt it! I got a Claudius sestertius covered in red & green hard stuff with the plan to clean it. The green stuff wasn't too bad, dissolving with some work. I purchased some surgical scalpels to use that as I've heard of/seen some great results. But the red has been hard on my hands. I'm thinking lye might be the next step to see how productive it is.

    Edit: Seller's before photos...
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  15. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if rose spikes might help better than sharp object made of tougher metal than the coin?
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have used splinters of ebony left over from my woodworking phase to good result. Rose thorns are a lot easier to find.
     
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  17. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to use them myself to see if what the toothbrush couldn't dislodge might be moved with some sharp thorns.
     
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  18. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    And Fausta after some fiddling with a rose thorn around the bust and between the letters:

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  19. singig

    singig Well-Known Member

    Nice details , I didn't notice the two children before.
    After the last bath keep the coin in water for a couple of days , the colour will get better.
     
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  20. singig

    singig Well-Known Member

    I started to clean coins from this lot(30$) received yesterday. I bought it mainly for two coins : the rarest DIVO type of Carus DIVO CARO PERS(icvs) and for the Constantius I large follis.

    I will post some results tomorrow.

    Hadrian , Aurelian , Carus , Numerian , Severina?
    Constans , Constantine I , ? , Constantius I
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  21. singig

    singig Well-Known Member

    Constantius I
    AE follis. Heraclea. 305-306 AD. RIC VI Heraclea 24a.
    IMP C FL VAL CONSTANTIVS PF AVG, laureate head right / GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera from which liquid flows, and cornucopiae. Mintmark: HTΓ
    28 mm / 8.5 g constantius-I.jpg constantius-I-o.jpg constantius-I-r.jpg
     
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