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<p>[QUOTE="Bruce J Fick, post: 3180635, member: 97805"]From the standpoint of Law, per se. Anyone who purports to know something they can not know or simply do not know, and represents it anyway as the truth, is deceitful. And therefore is lying. Moreover, if they believe their lies are the truth, they're delusional. Thus people who don't know any better are ignorant and liars. I avoid Ebay sellers who don't accept returns. Even the Ebay sellers who have 30 day returns can be routinely deceitful as some very carefuly manipulate their photos by </p><p>means of trick photography. I bought a Morgan misrepresented as MS/DMPL which looked flawless like it was minted in Heaven from all photos, that was so ugly it was fugly in hand. PCGS didn't rate it as DMPL, nor MS. Ebay listed his 6 feedbacks that were profoundly negative as " </p><p>" Neutral " . What a trajic farce !!! I've received V.F.-X.F. Morgans, rare in MS, mispreresented as MS 64 by fraudulent slabbers working for them. Their bait advertisement was trick photography using bright white light to glare on the coin surface(s) so you couldn't see the bag marks. And they're Ebay " power sellers " . Others routinely dip their coins in Jewler's Luster to conceal the coin has been improperly cleaned, then market the coin as DMPL. Even an educated 5 yr old child can tell their Morgan dollars are dipped fraudulent misrepresentations of DMPLs. Yet they put their faces next to their vender names with the most guileful expressions. Being burned on Ebay, I've learned to be very cautious. What's kept me in the game on Ebay is that over the past 6 years I've also acquired MANY more coins whose condition rarity makes them so potentialy valuable they're worth THOUSANDS of times what I paid for them. And I paid handsomely for them too as astonishing as it sounds. Developing a sharp eye for coins</p><p>is not only key, it's what we Italians call aquiline , like the Heraldic eagle</p><p>the free masons accepted as the symbol of America.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce J Fick, post: 3180635, member: 97805"]From the standpoint of Law, per se. Anyone who purports to know something they can not know or simply do not know, and represents it anyway as the truth, is deceitful. And therefore is lying. Moreover, if they believe their lies are the truth, they're delusional. Thus people who don't know any better are ignorant and liars. I avoid Ebay sellers who don't accept returns. Even the Ebay sellers who have 30 day returns can be routinely deceitful as some very carefuly manipulate their photos by means of trick photography. I bought a Morgan misrepresented as MS/DMPL which looked flawless like it was minted in Heaven from all photos, that was so ugly it was fugly in hand. PCGS didn't rate it as DMPL, nor MS. Ebay listed his 6 feedbacks that were profoundly negative as " " Neutral " . What a trajic farce !!! I've received V.F.-X.F. Morgans, rare in MS, mispreresented as MS 64 by fraudulent slabbers working for them. Their bait advertisement was trick photography using bright white light to glare on the coin surface(s) so you couldn't see the bag marks. And they're Ebay " power sellers " . Others routinely dip their coins in Jewler's Luster to conceal the coin has been improperly cleaned, then market the coin as DMPL. Even an educated 5 yr old child can tell their Morgan dollars are dipped fraudulent misrepresentations of DMPLs. Yet they put their faces next to their vender names with the most guileful expressions. Being burned on Ebay, I've learned to be very cautious. What's kept me in the game on Ebay is that over the past 6 years I've also acquired MANY more coins whose condition rarity makes them so potentialy valuable they're worth THOUSANDS of times what I paid for them. And I paid handsomely for them too as astonishing as it sounds. Developing a sharp eye for coins is not only key, it's what we Italians call aquiline , like the Heraldic eagle the free masons accepted as the symbol of America.[/QUOTE]
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