Uncirculated 1958 D Lincoln wheat cent doubled Die Obverse showing minting process striations marks

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Alexander Sanchez, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

    I got this coin straight out of a bu uncirculated bank roll.
    Would you guys consider this to be die deterioration. Or is is it minting process striations marks.
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  3. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I think what you are seeing are die cleaning lines, Or die lines for short.
    Quite common on most coins. They are best seen on uncirculated coins.
    They are found along side of Striation Marks, but are caused by two different things.
     
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  4. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

    thank you for your reply by looking close up at the images of this 1958-d do you not see any doubling whatsoever taking place?
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    The obverse has die deterioration doubling and perhaps a tiny amount of Mechanical also, but no doubling of extra value i can see, but a nice coin overall. IMO, Jim
     
  6. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

    Ok thank you guys i think im gonna get it authenticated/certified just cuzz its only $9dollars plus shipping with anacs.
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  7. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

    on 1958 looking at separate images i see a line by center of Every number. what is that called?
     
  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Yes you also see the exact thing on the mint mark. See what Jim said above.
     
  10. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

  11. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    In that photo of VV 58-001, they are only looking at the small extension on the upper -left curl of the '9' and the bottom tight of the B in liberty, and that is it. I really do not see either on your coin. The one in VV is a very minor one and your coin in nice condition should show those if it had them.

    The line you see in the center of the numbers is sometimes reflection from angled lights, and sometimes, especially on mint cents with little to no wear it is because there are very slight angles (bevels) on the top of the numbers and letters of the coin so the die will withdraw after striking easier. Early die strikes can show them, but they become more rounded after thousands and thousands. These wear quickly in circulation. IMO, Jim
     
  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    If you simply look at your date and mint mark, you will see the same ghosting of the numbers and mm to their right. Since the MM is punched separately from the numbers you have to ask yourself what is this indicative of? Which you had correctly the first time .. die deterioration.

    Don't forget to inspect the entire coin. Many times people get so focused on one particular thing they ignore the other evident indicators.
     
  13. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I think your looking at your coins with too much magnification. At anything much above 10X magnification any and all the surfaces look rough with lines, dents and die marks looking like mint errors. They are errors but very minor and are insignificant. I have an old school optical binocular microscope that is 15X by 45X magnification and very seldom use the higher power. I wish that the low end was 10X power but it came at 15X and I’m stuck with it. I’ve become use to it after 25 years so I just roll with it. So try looking at your coins at lower power and you won’t drive yourself crazy each time you look at a coin.

    Just my two cents worth at 15X power. ;)

    Reed
     
  14. Alexander Sanchez

    Alexander Sanchez Active Member

    Than
    Thank you for all the great advice guys. Learn lots from everyone.
     
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