Um... what is this "blackened" 1922 Peace Dollar?

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  1. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    I've never seen toning like this before.... I don't think it's toning?

    The details in Liberty's hair are far greater here than on my MS65 slabbed and 1922 UNC ungraded Peace Dollars. As well as the sharp, narrow spikes leading from the head.

    Anybody know? IMG_3189.JPG IMG_3190.JPG IMG_3189.JPG IMG_3190.JPG IMG_3194.JPG IMG_3195.JPG IMG_3193.JPG IMG_3192.JPG IMG_3191.JPG
     
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  3. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    Tarnish of some sort or a layer of silt. Could have been around a smoker or near moisture.

    You might try soaking it in acetone, but whatever you do - don't try to rub it off or clean it. It's a nice looking coin under that layer of gunk.

    I have a few like that... Dirty girls! ;)
     
  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    I really like how it brings out the details in her hair.

    Is the weight what you would expect?
     
  5. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    Yeah, it weighs the same. It came in a roll of estate Peace Dollars
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a toned Peace Dollar. It is not MS 65 for sure, but is a pretty nice coin. That is chocolate colored toning, which is actually not unusual at all.
     
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  7. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    Well at least it's gradable (not environmental damage). I kind of like the look as is.

    Darn. And part of me was hoping this was some sort of weird low relief matte proof b/c of the thin spikes & detail in hair on the obv.
     
  8. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    You could e-mail me some large image files to review - oh wait - you already did. :cigar:
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    I agree with Morgandude, toned peace dollar. I have seen similar from estates. Sometimes they get stored in bad containers, like oak, and will accelerate toning to this state. Dry oak will lead to dark toning, but usually not corrosion, (matte black in color and gritty, if you ever see this assume the coin underneath is corroded).
     
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  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Just dark toning, borderline environmental damage.
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Dark toning and an incredible strike. I really like it
     
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  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    amazing strike.

    could it be one of the extremely rare high relief 1922's?


    nah, just my imagination
     
  13. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    nah, not it's definitely not high relief. was hoping for matte PF low-relief. oh well. -- speaking of which, how do you tell a 1922 satin-proof or matte proof peace dollar?

    i've just never seen silver coins toned like this. not to this extent at least :/
     
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  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Fabulous strike. That might push it to MS 65. I had initially thought no way, but looking at it again, I think it may well be a gem coin under that heavy toning. I really like it also, as it is original and not a typical light dip job Peace Dollar.

    That toning is not at all unusual for Peace Dollars--I have owned a few like that. The chocolate toning is like seated coinage, but on a much more recent coin. Often they are misgraded, as one doesn't see really nice surfaces beneath the heavy tone. Trade Dollars often have this kind of toning.
     
  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Too many marks for 65. A technical 63 with a bump to 64 for strike
     
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  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I can't tell if she is AU or MS. Your pictures have glare or blurriness in just the wrong spots. However, I am leaning towards AU.
     
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