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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2271919, member: 36230"]First, please explain what proof you have that he's "selling dozens of counterfeit coins", and in particular, how you know (not just assume) he has sold them to "numerous others" as well. Since you apparently do not wish to share links (understandable, I suppose), it's only right that you explain why the above appears to contradict earlier statements....</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>How many supposed counterfeits from this person do you have, and exactly how did you, without question, identify them as such? I understand you earlier mentioned you identified one (more?) by weight, so I cannot help to be curious about this...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If this "PCGS dealer" recommends a certain coin be submitted and believes it genuine, may I ask how you know differently? Also, and at least in this one instance, his request that you submit cannot rightfully be called unreasonable.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This post (below) is somewhat telling imo... while it certainly does not excuse counterfeit/counterfeits, it does show that you were seeing what you wanted to instead of what was actually there. Again, possible counterfeits aside, you cannot make assumptions like this and get upset when it turns out not to be fact. By saying this, you've basically thrown away any valid complaint about the later "junk" coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>At this point, all comes down to the supposed counterfeits. Sure, you could threaten and/or even try to file a police report, but unless you can provide absolute proof that the counterfeits were, in fact, received in the two opened rolls, don't expect much in the way of results. I've seen this type of thing before and let's just say it's a lot easier said than done. In one instance, the conned man's brother just happened to be a state cop working out of the very town the conman lived in, and while the brother did harass him a bit, the complaint went nowhere, and because without absolute proof, it was one person's word against another. From what you've said thus far, I would have to say this person was in a much stronger position than you are, especially if the other guy is aware of this thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>You really need to ask yourself exactly how much you're willing to invest in trying to get a refund on the last two rolls. Yes, it certainly sucks that, if true, this guy would benefit from it, but sometimes your loss is really your gain, even if only in the lesson learned. I certainly wish you the very best of luck with whatever decision you make.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2271919, member: 36230"]First, please explain what proof you have that he's "selling dozens of counterfeit coins", and in particular, how you know (not just assume) he has sold them to "numerous others" as well. Since you apparently do not wish to share links (understandable, I suppose), it's only right that you explain why the above appears to contradict earlier statements.... How many supposed counterfeits from this person do you have, and exactly how did you, without question, identify them as such? I understand you earlier mentioned you identified one (more?) by weight, so I cannot help to be curious about this... If this "PCGS dealer" recommends a certain coin be submitted and believes it genuine, may I ask how you know differently? Also, and at least in this one instance, his request that you submit cannot rightfully be called unreasonable. This post (below) is somewhat telling imo... while it certainly does not excuse counterfeit/counterfeits, it does show that you were seeing what you wanted to instead of what was actually there. Again, possible counterfeits aside, you cannot make assumptions like this and get upset when it turns out not to be fact. By saying this, you've basically thrown away any valid complaint about the later "junk" coins. At this point, all comes down to the supposed counterfeits. Sure, you could threaten and/or even try to file a police report, but unless you can provide absolute proof that the counterfeits were, in fact, received in the two opened rolls, don't expect much in the way of results. I've seen this type of thing before and let's just say it's a lot easier said than done. In one instance, the conned man's brother just happened to be a state cop working out of the very town the conman lived in, and while the brother did harass him a bit, the complaint went nowhere, and because without absolute proof, it was one person's word against another. From what you've said thus far, I would have to say this person was in a much stronger position than you are, especially if the other guy is aware of this thread. You really need to ask yourself exactly how much you're willing to invest in trying to get a refund on the last two rolls. Yes, it certainly sucks that, if true, this guy would benefit from it, but sometimes your loss is really your gain, even if only in the lesson learned. I certainly wish you the very best of luck with whatever decision you make.[/QUOTE]
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