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<p>[QUOTE="SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom, post: 2882395, member: 86795"]All good points. </p><p>>>>>>vast majority of buyers are dealers, not collectors. And very few dealers >>>>>are collectors. And when I say vast majority, we're really talking about the >>>>>vast majority. </p><p>Easy enough to detect, just need to set the values to measure whether or not they fall into the hybrid category. Also, it raises a good and meaningful question, </p><p>Are dealer/buyers collectors? I guess you could use net income figures as a measure, but kinda rough to get people to give up their tax returns, eh? Even when coins are small change compared to those of politicians, so let's try another tack...</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as print magazine subscriptions, now you're getting tricky. </p><p><br /></p><p>PRINT IS DEAD is no longer just a clever line from Ghostbusters, it's more and more a reality. I've been collecting coins since 1964, and I haven't subscribed to a coin collecting print publication since perhaps the early 70s. My guess is that you'll find spikes in coin collecting magazine subscriptions on the ends of the Belle Curve age-wise, with the majority not spending their money on such.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I have never felt it necessary to pay for membership to ANACS, NGC or PCGS. Yes, I am new to CoinTalk, and I think it's one of if not THE best online forum, but I'm a picky and tough critic of where and what I applaud on the Internet, being one of the first developers of serious interactive web applications, going back to the 90s. I was programming custom web based shipment tracking and proof of delivery applications for shipping carriers long before it became the norm and taken for granted.</p><p><br /></p><p>The duplication of members across similar applications numbers are easy to detect while data mining for our answers, this is not really hard to do in general, it's really just a matter of deciding where to look and what sorts of repetitive activity constitute significant behavior. Bottom line being the bottom line, it all comes down to how much people spend and the total number of transactions over a period of time. </p><p><br /></p><p>Am I a serious collector? I don't know. Define serious. My activity over the last 53 years of collecting looks like an EKG that would warrant a pacemaker, I was obsessed for a few years when younger, probably flatlined a few times, when I discovered women and rock and roll, but I always have come back. I still buy more than I sell, and while I usually keep in mind the possibility of reselling anything I buy, some coins I just buy because they make me feel young again and because they're fun to hold and listen to, not unlike women and rock and roll, you know?</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding my original comment and your excellent point regarding, go to the source, that comment came from MarketWatch, fairly reputable I'd say. But figures sometimes lying and liars sometimes figuring, you always have to ask, "What's their motivation?" Someone with an interest in that study no doubt had an interest in the impact of publishing its results, and that's where the juicy story really dwells. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's another good article: <a href="https://coinweek.com/education/coin-collecting-large-rare-coin-market/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coinweek.com/education/coin-collecting-large-rare-coin-market/" rel="nofollow">https://coinweek.com/education/coin-collecting-large-rare-coin-market/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, enough from me on this. I'm interested enough to wonder to toy with the idea of getting the answers on this, but battle-worn enough that I probably wouldn't give it a real effort unless I were getting paid to do it, but then, I'd be at the mercy of spinning it the way of the people who pay me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Once again, it's all about the bottom line, and I like to be paid in Silver.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom, post: 2882395, member: 86795"]All good points. >>>>>vast majority of buyers are dealers, not collectors. And very few dealers >>>>>are collectors. And when I say vast majority, we're really talking about the >>>>>vast majority. Easy enough to detect, just need to set the values to measure whether or not they fall into the hybrid category. Also, it raises a good and meaningful question, Are dealer/buyers collectors? I guess you could use net income figures as a measure, but kinda rough to get people to give up their tax returns, eh? Even when coins are small change compared to those of politicians, so let's try another tack... As far as print magazine subscriptions, now you're getting tricky. PRINT IS DEAD is no longer just a clever line from Ghostbusters, it's more and more a reality. I've been collecting coins since 1964, and I haven't subscribed to a coin collecting print publication since perhaps the early 70s. My guess is that you'll find spikes in coin collecting magazine subscriptions on the ends of the Belle Curve age-wise, with the majority not spending their money on such. Personally, I have never felt it necessary to pay for membership to ANACS, NGC or PCGS. Yes, I am new to CoinTalk, and I think it's one of if not THE best online forum, but I'm a picky and tough critic of where and what I applaud on the Internet, being one of the first developers of serious interactive web applications, going back to the 90s. I was programming custom web based shipment tracking and proof of delivery applications for shipping carriers long before it became the norm and taken for granted. The duplication of members across similar applications numbers are easy to detect while data mining for our answers, this is not really hard to do in general, it's really just a matter of deciding where to look and what sorts of repetitive activity constitute significant behavior. Bottom line being the bottom line, it all comes down to how much people spend and the total number of transactions over a period of time. Am I a serious collector? I don't know. Define serious. My activity over the last 53 years of collecting looks like an EKG that would warrant a pacemaker, I was obsessed for a few years when younger, probably flatlined a few times, when I discovered women and rock and roll, but I always have come back. I still buy more than I sell, and while I usually keep in mind the possibility of reselling anything I buy, some coins I just buy because they make me feel young again and because they're fun to hold and listen to, not unlike women and rock and roll, you know? Regarding my original comment and your excellent point regarding, go to the source, that comment came from MarketWatch, fairly reputable I'd say. But figures sometimes lying and liars sometimes figuring, you always have to ask, "What's their motivation?" Someone with an interest in that study no doubt had an interest in the impact of publishing its results, and that's where the juicy story really dwells. Here's another good article: [url]https://coinweek.com/education/coin-collecting-large-rare-coin-market/[/url] Anyway, enough from me on this. I'm interested enough to wonder to toy with the idea of getting the answers on this, but battle-worn enough that I probably wouldn't give it a real effort unless I were getting paid to do it, but then, I'd be at the mercy of spinning it the way of the people who pay me. Once again, it's all about the bottom line, and I like to be paid in Silver.[/QUOTE]
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