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<p>[QUOTE="EdThelorax, post: 3364787, member: 99854"]i couldn't agree more, other than noting that this is not a new problem. The lax enforcement of the collectible coin protection act which is an amendment of the hobby protection act is appalling. Ebay and the FTC do nothing to stop or punish known sellers of counterfeit coins. This gives the Chinese the money needed to fund better and better methods of manufacture of fakes. The sand cast method is outdated as are many cast versions. Two things to look for are pits from gas bubbles and extra metal bumps from missing areas in the molds. Many times they will wizz the coin to remove bumps then "antique" the coin to give it the appearance of circulation. I don't do ancient coins but the processes are the same. You have the basic casting process correct. They have moved on to die stamped counterfeiting where they make a die from an original coin then stamp the copy just like a mint would. At this rate in ten years only expensive testing methods will be able to detect them. Any coin that now costs less than 100$ will not be available raw with certainty it is genuine. it will cost more to test it than it is worth if real. As for pictures, I have a bunch of US stuff but no ancients. I suggest you search ebay for "faux" ,"replica" ,"copy", country of origin China combined with what you are familiar with and you will find coins that are admitted fakes. It's easy since ebay doesn't care at all. Then you will get an idea of what to look for.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EdThelorax, post: 3364787, member: 99854"]i couldn't agree more, other than noting that this is not a new problem. The lax enforcement of the collectible coin protection act which is an amendment of the hobby protection act is appalling. Ebay and the FTC do nothing to stop or punish known sellers of counterfeit coins. This gives the Chinese the money needed to fund better and better methods of manufacture of fakes. The sand cast method is outdated as are many cast versions. Two things to look for are pits from gas bubbles and extra metal bumps from missing areas in the molds. Many times they will wizz the coin to remove bumps then "antique" the coin to give it the appearance of circulation. I don't do ancient coins but the processes are the same. You have the basic casting process correct. They have moved on to die stamped counterfeiting where they make a die from an original coin then stamp the copy just like a mint would. At this rate in ten years only expensive testing methods will be able to detect them. Any coin that now costs less than 100$ will not be available raw with certainty it is genuine. it will cost more to test it than it is worth if real. As for pictures, I have a bunch of US stuff but no ancients. I suggest you search ebay for "faux" ,"replica" ,"copy", country of origin China combined with what you are familiar with and you will find coins that are admitted fakes. It's easy since ebay doesn't care at all. Then you will get an idea of what to look for.[/QUOTE]
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