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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2712664, member: 19463&quot;]<span style="color: #000000">Be warned.&nbsp; What follows is a typical dougsmit post.&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">1.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Below are two coins of Septimius Severus that Cohen considered identical and listed as #267.&nbsp;&nbsp; RIC however saw a difference and listed them as #11 and 357 respectively.&nbsp; I consider the difference of great significance.&nbsp; Who sees it?&nbsp; Do you care?</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">[ATTACH=full]612905[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612904[/ATTACH] </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The two coins read exactly the same on both sides but style separates them into Rome (first) and Emesa (second) mints. RIC lists coins according to mints.&nbsp; Cohen did not. I <u>must</u> have both.&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">2.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Below are two more coins that I consider significantly different from each other but RIC doesn&#039;t care and calls both #14.&nbsp; Do you see anything worthy of note that might separate the two?</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">[ATTACH=full]612923[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612922[/ATTACH] </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Some Rome mint coins of Legion XIIII used standards that included small Capricorns near the bottom while others did not.&nbsp; If one wanted to get really detailed here note might be made that there are several different standards configurations based on the arrangement of elements but that even seems too over the top for me.&nbsp; I do, however note the Capricorns.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">3. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Again, below, are two coins that may seem similar but this time Cohen listed them with different numbers but RIC denied the second saying that Cohen&#039;s listing was based on a defective reading.&nbsp; Cohen was right but so was RIC since Cohen&#039;s reading was based on a specimen missing some letters.&nbsp; I care very much on this one. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">[ATTACH=full]612924[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612925[/ATTACH] </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Again the two coins are from different mints but this time we have Rome and Alexandria.&nbsp; Cohen did not care about mints but listed a coin that read LEG III ITAL TRP COS (262) and one that read LEG III IT AV TRP C (263).&nbsp; My second coin shows the coin Cohen listed was weak at the right and missing the I and OS of LEG III IT AVI TRP COS.&nbsp; Cohen did not make up these things but listed what he could read.&nbsp; RIC put a footnote to their listing for #7 dismissing Cohen&#039;s listing as based on a faulty reading.&nbsp; At least Cohen saw that the AL of Rome was AV at Alexandria (although it would be another fifty years before anyone &#039;discovered&#039; the Alexandia denarii were what they are now considered to be).&nbsp; There is a rare variety both Martin and I have shown here before where the Alexandria mint used AVG instead of AVI but relatively few of you will care about that one.&nbsp; I do.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">This sort of thing could be done with almost any ancient coin specialty by a student/collector who is deeply into a series.&nbsp; We have a member here who likes Domitian like I like Septimius.&nbsp; When he shows some of his rarities, I am not driven to obtain the whole set any more than he is driven to have all the above Legionaries.&nbsp; That is as it should be.&nbsp; We can not all collect everything to a point of obsession.&nbsp; We do not, however make fun of each other like Mick Jagger opined:</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><b><a href="https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-i-cant-get-no-satisfaction-lyrics#note-57810" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-i-cant-get-no-satisfaction-lyrics#note-57810" rel="nofollow">Well he can&#039;t be a man cause he doesn&#039;t smoke</a></b></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><b><a href="https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-i-cant-get-no-satisfaction-lyrics#note-57810" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-i-cant-get-no-satisfaction-lyrics#note-57810" rel="nofollow">The same cigarettes as me</a> </b></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">We each <u>can</u> get our Satisfaction.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I showed six coins that I consider to be distinctly different.&nbsp; Some of you would see six examples of the same thing and one one at the very most (or none because Septimius was later than you collect).&nbsp; Valentinian&#039;s question invited showing pairs.&nbsp; Above are three pairs or one sextet and a small fraction of my Legionary Septimius coins.&nbsp; I love the type in all its variety and could not even consider trading the lot of them for one mint state Legionary aureus. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"> <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=300766" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=300766" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=300766</a></span></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=300766#" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=300766#" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #ff0000"><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/big/10100592.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></span></a></p><p><font size="6"><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>The Fabled <i>Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix</i></b></span></font></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>Triton XIX, Lot: 592.</b> Estimate $50000.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Sold for $70000. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>Septimius Severus. </b>AD 193-211. AV Aureus (20mm, 7.14 g, 12h). Rome mint. Struck AD 193. IMP CAE • L • SEP SEV PERT AVG, laureate bust right / LEG XIIII • GEM • M • V •, TR P COS in exergue, legionary aquila between two signa; forepart of capricorn on the shaft of each signum. RIC IV 14; Calicó 2472a; Biaggi 1073; BMCRE 18. Choice EF, lustrous. Well centered on a broad flan. Very rare, only three examples of two varieties in CoinArchives.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">This very rare and important aureus is one of only four recorded gold types in the extensive ‘legionary’ series issued by Severus at the very outset of his reign. According to Dio Cassius (<i>XLVI</i>, 46, 7), he paid an accession donative of 250 denarii (ten aurei) per man and in all likelihood the legionary coinage was specially struck for this purpose. <i>Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix</i> received special honors from the new emperor as he had been the commander of this unit at the time of his elevation to imperial status. Originally formed by Octavian, this legion had participated in the invasion and conquest of Britain under Claudius and had gained its additional epithet of <i>Martia Victrix</i> for the vital role that it played in the defeat of the Icenian revolt led by Boudicca in 60 AD</span></p><p><br /></p><p>We have often warned that the hobby can become an obsession.&nbsp; Few will have read this far.&nbsp; They will miss the proof of the truth of the matter.&nbsp; Run away now; ancients are dangerous![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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