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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cladking, post: 1695051, member: 68&quot;]The relief is a little lower on the type &quot;d&quot;.&nbsp; The second best PUP is the shape of the cross bar on the &quot;Q&quot; of &quot;QUARTER&quot;.&nbsp; These are much more subtle differences on the &#039;77 and &#039;78 and I didn&#039;t spot them until I saw the &#039;79. Once you see one of these they stand out but all the differences are quite subtle except the depth of relief.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe these are important coins (even the &#039;77 and &#039;78) but it&#039;s possible that they are mere hubbing varieties or something that will never be popular.&nbsp; I&#039;ve tried researching their origin and have made no progress at all.&nbsp; For a while I toyed with the idea they were made at West Point but the facts don&#039;t seem to fit that hypothesis and don&#039;t account for the Denver mint issues.&nbsp; There are some similarities to proofs so there might be processes involved related to proof die manufacture.&nbsp; An inordinate percentage of the type &quot;d&#039;s are PL (usually reverse only).&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Truth to tell it sometimes seemed in those days that the mint was playing around with all this stuff just to see if anyone would ever notice.&nbsp; As soon as they settled on a single reverse in 1985 they started using two different obverses with a much larger difference and higher mintage.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s a little surprising that none of these oddballs appear in mint sets except the &#039;81-P type &quot;d&quot; since the number of dies involved was pretty substantial.&nbsp; It&#039;s odd that each year the differences became greater and the mintages increased.&nbsp; It almost seems intentional.&nbsp; All of these coins 3except the &#039;81-P will be very tough in Unc or even the higher circulated grades except, ironically, the &#039;82 and &#039;83 issues.&nbsp; I don&#039;t believe either the &#039;77 or &#039;78-D will exist in Unc.&nbsp; There probably won&#039;t be more than a couple dozen of the &#039;85-P sm bust in Unc (I&#039;ve got one).&nbsp; Even in XF this coin will be extremely elusive because of the low rims on the date.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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