Type B Washington Quarters

YES!

And you have had your hand in this creation too! .....

 

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TMI...:bigeyes:

 

LOL! Yeah, I was thinking that too, but I just had to say it! :hail:

 

Other than the 56 which I have not found/bought yet, I was not able to get the 1960 graded. Here is the story behind that.....

I was on vacation last week and I get a call from NGC.....which is never good. I spoke with Scott who I have no idea what his title is, but he was super nice and helpful. He tells me that I had inadvertently left out of my package the 1960 Type B reverse although I had it listed as one of my coins. Of course, here I am at the beach and all I could think about was that darn coin. So the first thing I do when I get home is look all over for it. No luck! I can't find it anywhere. So I had to call him today and let him know. It wasn't a problem for them, but it was holding up the rest of the coins that I had sent in for grading. But check this out....this is the neat part.....He tells me that when they got my box in and they noticed the error, they immediately went back and reviewed the tapes....YES! they record each package as they are received and opened to verify the contents. I figured that NGC would do as much, but it was neat to have it confirmed. Good news is that tonight I did find the 1960, but I will send that in next time....unless I can get Scott to allow me to send it in late. I am calling him tomorrow. Cross your fingers!

 

Cool! Makes sense really...cya.

Joe, it's just not like you to make a mistake with your coins! You must have had your mind on your beach vacation and not your coins!

 

Thats what I said!!! :rolling:

 

Ok I'll ask the really newbie question because I'm still learning....

How can you tell the difference between a mint set and a proof set when you're looking at the packaging. I realize that all of the proof sets will have a Type B reverse so those aren't the ones you're looking for. When you go to ebay or another site, are they packaged differently? Let me give you an example.

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1963-MINT-SET...em&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item27b24c6ce8


Is this a mint set? and how is it different from the below set?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320543106584&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I'm talking about when you're just looking at a photo and there is no text to say proof or mint...are you distinguishing one from the other based on that little token?

Thanks

 

Yacorie.....look closely at each 'item'. You'll see there are 2 sets for the 'mint set', one from the Denver mint, one from the Philly mint. There's only one set of coins for the proof set. You'll also notice the difference in the piece that identifies where it was minted.....mint sets have a sort of plastic, round 'chip', while the proof sets contain a more 'fancy' insert, which is octagonal in shape (I'd refer to them as 'medals', like what replaced the Susie B in the mint sets after '81, but they aren't 'medals' in the same sense, as the medallion that took the place of the SBA was made from a cent planchet).

 

Thank you

 

Please excuse this interuption. I am new here and haven't mastered navigation. I think this thread will be #1 for me and posting to it may help me to get back to it.

 

After reviewing the entire thread, I found a few things to comment on.

As to whether or not the type B's dies were inadvertent or deliberate use of used proof dies, I believe in a third choice. I think dies destined to be proof dies failed inspection for proof work and rather than scrap them, sent them to the production floor. They were not polished before use. There may be a random exception to this here and there.

Circulation Type B's were made from 1956 -1964. Type II half proofs were made from 1956-1963. Yet circulation strike type II's are found for only 1958 and 1959. If there was a policy to recycle proof dies, what happened to years 1956, 1957 and 1960-1963?

In my (and others) experience 1959 mint sets have a type B quarter and a type II half (for Philly only, of course). Jaceravone's report of type A quarter is most interesting. 1957 and 1960 mint sets are about 50% type B. I think they are very scarce in any other mint sets.

Type2 has a good name. Type B use to be type II or variety 2. Walter Breen change it to B. (At the same time he changed my 1972 $1 type B to type 2).

I think the TPG's recognize type 2 halves for 1956 proofs.

Clad type B diagnostics are the same as the silver B's.

Based on my 1973-1988 experience, I estimate the number of clad B circulation coins to be:
1969 D B 1,000,00
1970 D B 500,000
1971 D B 80,000
1972 D B 40,000

1971 D B has a die chip visible on 6 out of 6 specimens.

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I have had good luck cherry-picking the 1959 mint sets. I have found a few with the Type B quarter and the Type II half as you noted but have had to search hundreds of mint sets. TC

 

I too have had a bit of luck and think I'm up to 5 B's now mabye 6. Most of mine are not in the sets though and are from 2x2's.

 

<<I have had good luck cherry-picking the 1959 mint sets. I have found a few with the Type B quarter and the Type II half as you noted but have had to search hundreds of mint sets. TC >>

Were these hundredsof mint sets all 1959's?

 

Yes. I have only found the Type B quarters if the return address on the mint set in Philadelphia, PA. I have found none if the return address on the mint set is San Francisco, CA. There are plenty of 1959 mint sets out there with no Type B quarters. TC

 

I have been trying to find 59 and 60 sets without the Type B quarter and I have had no luck. That is a good observation about the return address. All my envelopes say Philly.

 

Is it possible that the only source for Type B quarters for some years (i.e. 1959) are the mint sets? That may help determine Type B mintage. TC

 

This weekend I looked through about 50 mint sets between '61 and '70. This was part of a larger group that belonged to my grandmother who lived her entire life in Philly, so I'm guessing they were from the philly mint.

We didn't find any Type B quarters.

 

Wow. That is good info to know. It is quite possible that the Type B reverse has lower mintages than once thought. TC

 

Pretty nice experiences! :thumb: I would be interested to know how you arrived at those numbers. I don't question them...just interested to know. Breen lists those populations as...

1969-D (1% of Mintage)
1970-D (0.1% of Mintage)
1971-D (Very Rare)
1972-D (May Exist)

I searched about fifty (50) OBW rolls each of the 1971-D and 1972-D and didn't find any. :crying:

I would really like to put together a complete highend set of all the Proof-reverse business strike Washington quarters.

I had no idea about the Type-M reverses until I read this thread. Thanks a lot for posting!! :bow: You've given me hope that I might (one day) find the Clad Type-B reverses.

Do you have that complete set, yet?