Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
CoinTalk
>
What's it Worth
>
Two very old gold coins
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 623346, member: 19065"]<b></b></p><p><b>@GDJMSP:</b></p><p>I'm intrigued by jakal's uncovered 'treasure' story yet it totall "sounds too good to be true" in scenario. I completely concur with your facts and authority in these old world coins, and especially regarding the mushy details which immediately looks like these are fake coins. I hope that we will learn more details of where these coins were found, though I know if someone finds a treasure spot they are not going to reveal their location. However, some evidence of the site, the excavation and pre-cleaned condition would help jakal gain some credibility in the claim. </p><p><br /></p><p>Is there any chance these are crappy replicas issued by some European collectors mint company and not intentional counterfeits? Possibly done lesser kt. gold or with a higher kt. gold plate?</p><p><br /></p><p>Isn't there also a rather complex amount of legal ownership issues of finding 'lost' treasure, because it may yet belong to someone, a group, institution or government and can thus be contested? If authentic, shouldn't these be reported to local authorities in antiquities the way that sunken hoards are often announced prior to being fully reclaimed, cleaned authenticated and potentially resold? </p><p><br /></p><p>I understand that this is especially the case in more recent discoveries like the S.S. Central America by the Columbus-America Discovery Group and the S.S. Republic by the Odyssey Marine Exploration group. Odyssey has also been finding a lot in their dives below the English Channel and there are UNESCO conventions about finding wrecks in international waters that come into play. Other types of wrecks, if belonging to a soverign navy, remain the property of that nation where ever it is found. The Spanish galleon Atocha shipwreck caught a lot of headlines when it's cache was brought up. Immediately old logs and records were scrutinized and the treasure was contested.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 623346, member: 19065"][B] @GDJMSP:[/B] I'm intrigued by jakal's uncovered 'treasure' story yet it totall "sounds too good to be true" in scenario. I completely concur with your facts and authority in these old world coins, and especially regarding the mushy details which immediately looks like these are fake coins. I hope that we will learn more details of where these coins were found, though I know if someone finds a treasure spot they are not going to reveal their location. However, some evidence of the site, the excavation and pre-cleaned condition would help jakal gain some credibility in the claim. Is there any chance these are crappy replicas issued by some European collectors mint company and not intentional counterfeits? Possibly done lesser kt. gold or with a higher kt. gold plate? Isn't there also a rather complex amount of legal ownership issues of finding 'lost' treasure, because it may yet belong to someone, a group, institution or government and can thus be contested? If authentic, shouldn't these be reported to local authorities in antiquities the way that sunken hoards are often announced prior to being fully reclaimed, cleaned authenticated and potentially resold? I understand that this is especially the case in more recent discoveries like the S.S. Central America by the Columbus-America Discovery Group and the S.S. Republic by the Odyssey Marine Exploration group. Odyssey has also been finding a lot in their dives below the English Channel and there are UNESCO conventions about finding wrecks in international waters that come into play. Other types of wrecks, if belonging to a soverign navy, remain the property of that nation where ever it is found. The Spanish galleon Atocha shipwreck caught a lot of headlines when it's cache was brought up. Immediately old logs and records were scrutinized and the treasure was contested.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
CoinTalk
>
What's it Worth
>
Two very old gold coins
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...