Two Really Neat Valerians (I & II)

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I like Valerian I as he's best known for becoming Shapur I's human stepping stool and/or stuffed toy.

    However, his coins are also pretty neat, often with some rare and unusual reverses.

    Valerian I RIC Antioch 277.JPG
    This one is really neat as it an unusual depiction of two full-length emperors on the reverse. You see double and triple emperors on late empire coins, but they don't seem to be too common before then.
    As we know, Gallienus and Valerian had a joint rule, so this is a really neat coin as it shows both guys in a pose of unity.

    My second neat one is a Consecration issue of Junior. These, similar to the Claudius II consecrations, have either an eagle or an altar. The eagle seems to be a bit more rare, but I liked the altars more anyways.
    Valerian II RIC 24.JPG
    As expected, reverse die is beat to death, but I really appreciate the delicate rendering of the child's face, although it does make him look much older than the expected 7-ish year old kid.

    Please post your most interesting Valerians :D
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...kind of like him?
     
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    GET OUT

    (lmao)
     
  5. Clavdivs

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    IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Valerian I right.
    RESTITVT ORIE-NTIS, the Orient, turreted, standing right, presenting wreath to the emperor, standing facing, head left, holding scepter.



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    Valerianus I. (253-260 AD). AE Sestertius (27 mm, 15.93 g), Rome, 253-254 AD.
    Obv. IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev. VICTORIA AVGG / S - C, Victory standing left, holding wreath and palm
     
  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Nice coins @hotwheelsearl ! I’m not sure what I think of Valerian but I do find him and the time period interesting.

    Here are my versions of your coins… I think. My first coin is surely of Asian mint style, I’m not sure about yours. Without looking at references, the style looks different. Either way, similar! I do like the obverse of your Valerian II coin better than mine. The portrait on mine is… sorta ugly. Haha, anyway fun coins.
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    Valerian - Antioch - RIC V-1 277
    ValerianIIRIC24.jpg
    Valerian II - RIC 24
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Nice acquisitions, @hotwheelsearl!

    My favorite Valerian type is the DEO VOLKANO:

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    Valerian I, AD 253-260.
    Roman AR antoninianus, 2.69 g, 21.2 mm, 7 h.
    Colonia Agrippina (Cologne) mint, AD 259-260.
    Obv: VALERIANVS·P·F·AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: DEO VOLKANO, Vulcan standing left within tetrastyle temple, hammer raised in right hand, tongs downward in left.
    Refs: RIC 5 (inaccurately attributed to the Lugdunum mint); Cohen 2 (inaccurately attributed to Valerian II); RSC 50c; Göbl 884d; Hunter IV 56; RCV 9934.

    And here's the grandson, struck with the typical worn out reverse die:

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    Valerian II, Caesar AD 256-258.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.14 g, 22.5 mm, 5 h.
    Cologne, AD 257-258.
    Obv: VALERIANVS CAES, radiate and draped bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI CRESCENTI, infant Jupiter seated facing on goat standing right, his right hand raised.
    Refs: RIC 3; Göbl 907e; Cohen 26; RCV 10731; Hunter 9.
     
  8. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    Badoom tish! ><
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have a much inferior version of the goat-rider.
    Valerian II AR Ant RIC 13.JPG
    Thinking about how young Junior was, this coin makes me kind of sad. Kid probably was more interested in ruling goats than ruling an empire, and probably deserve an early death. :(
     
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    kool coins O..i reckon i've the whole fam damily..provided there ain't a coin of V1's wife..:D..here's my 'silvered' ant. of V1 and a purdy good silver of V2, child Zeus on a goat reverse..19mm,2.32gms and 21mm,2.96gms respectively :) IMG_0399.JPG IMG_0400.JPG
     
  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That’s an excellent Jr. the reverse die is really high quality! Great
     
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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    thanks earl :)
     
  13. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Valerian I
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    Valerian II
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  14. Harry G

    Harry G Well-Known Member

    Here are a few of mine :)

    Valerian I, SALVS AVGG reverse
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    Valerian I with a left facing bust, VOTA ORBIS reverse. Rare
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    Valerian II, IOVI CRESCENTI reverse. He's depicted as a young Jupiter riding a goat... for some reason...
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  15. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

    There are also some Father/Son Coins on which Valerian I and Gallienus shared the same reverse during their joint reign. I started a thread about this around a year and a half ago. I think they're pretty neat, too.
     
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  16. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    that was done in hopes of keeping him safe from opposition...which didn't work out too well
     
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  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Oh, but there IS!

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    Mariniana, died AD 253.
    Roman AR Antoninianus, 3.04 g, 23.5 mm, 5 h.
    Rome mint, AD 253-257.
    Obv: DIVAE MARINIANAE, veiled, draped bust r., on crescent.
    Rev: CONSECRATIO, peacock standing facing, head l., tail in splendor.
    Refs: RIC 3; Cohen 3; RCV 10067; Temeryazev & Makarenko 560; Eauze Hoard-1318 (23 spec.); Cunetio Hoard-646 (22 spec.).
     
  18. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    ..ahaha!...that's a niceun RC...and as for me...back to the bidding board :p
     
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  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's another Valerian II - I bought it because the reverse is in good shape for the type, as mostly they are struck on very worn dies.

    Valerian II, AR antoninianus, 23 mm 4.2 grams

    Struck: 257-258, Cologne.

    Obverse: VALERIANVS CAES, radiate, draped bust right

    Reverse: IOVI CRESCENTI, the child Jupiter sitting right on the goat Amalthea, looking left, right hand raised, left hand holding the goat's horn.

    Reference: RIC 3 (Lyons); Cohen 26 (Saloninus); Elmer 67a; Goebl 0907e; Sear 10731.

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  20. Alwin

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    VALERIAN II (Caesar 256-258)
    AS, Rome, 258
    7.34 g - 26 mm
    S 10611 - C 18 (Saloninus) - RIC Va 43
    DIVO (CAES VA)LERIANO Bare-headed bust right
    CONS(ECRATIO) SC Funeral pyre surmounted by Valerian II in biga
     
  21. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Nice ones @hotwheelsearl!

    Valerian with Diana Lucifera.
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    Valerian Antoninianus, 254-255 AD.
    Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped bust right.
    Rev: FELICITAS SAECVLI. Diana Lucifera draped walking to the right, holding a lit torch in both hands; the head surmounted by a crescent moon.

    Sometimes provincials can have reasonably accurate portraits.
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    Phoenicia, Berytos. Valerian AE30. Astarte
    Obv: IMP CP LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Radiate bust right.
    Rev: COL IVL AVG FEL BER, Astarte standing front with head right, left foot on prow, holding standard in right hand and aphlastron in left, raising robe. To right Nike on column, crowning her.
    30mm and 15.3g.

    and some not so much...
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    Troas, Alexandreia. Valerian I
    Obv: IMP LIC VALERIANVS AV, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: COL AVGO TROA, eagle standing facing on bucranium, wings spread, head right.
     
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