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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2910016, member: 19463"]This post is intended to be of some value/interest to beginners even though neither of the coins discussed are something I would expect to be a popular choice as one of your first ancients. The postman brought me two packages each containing one coin in some ways very much like and in other ways quite different. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]702423[/ATTACH]</p><p>The first is the one and only coin I won in last week's CNG electronic sale (409 lot 726). It was listed as having sold previously in CNG sale 204 as lot 182. At both sales it was estimated at $150 but in 2009 it brought $192 while I won it at $130 in 2017. I suspect that the 2009 sale which had a large number of coins of Carausius attracted more specialists while the one last week had a more general audience that saw the coin's faults rather than its good features. Carausius was a British breakaway ruler in the time of Diocletian. His coins might be termed 'sort of' Roman but many of his fans are interested because of his being British. This coin is unusual for its mintmark denoting the 'C' mint which has been attributed to more than one English town starting with C. Relatively fewer C mint coins used the XXI alloy mark than did the London mint so a specialist might want this coin where the rest of us would hold the reverse centering against it. The coin is the most common reverse used by Carausius (Pax) so I was more impressed by the clear mintmark and excellent portrait than turned off by the poor reverse. The point to note here is not everyone is looking for the same thing in a coin. Some would want this coin for the portrait and Carausius coins often have terrible portraits. Some (few) would want it for the scarce mintmark and some would not want it at all because of the faulty reverse centering. The two CNG sales seem to have attracted different groups of Carausius collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]702425[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The second coin is like the first in being an issue of a secessionist ruler - here the Gallic Empire founder Postumus. Coins of Postumus are many times more common than those of Carausius and available in excellent condition for much lower prices than the average Carausius. I have several coins of Postumus that are much better looking than this one which was very fairly priced by a VCoin dealer you may know (Victor of CT) at 1/5 the CNG price. Big dealers usually get more than smaller dealers but I wanted this one for the reverse. Minerva Fautrix (she who gives favor) is a typ unique to Postumus. It is far from the most rare type of Postumus but one I did not have and wanted. The coin suffers from flat striking losing detail on both sides. While billon with a decent amount of silver, the tone is gray and lacking in sharp contrast. I like the coin but one of you quite possibly has a nicer one. </p><p><br /></p><p>For a beginning collector, I consider neither coin to be a great choice. You could get a more common mintmark with a Pax Carausius for the same price. You could get a more common reverse Postumus with more eye appeal for the price. For those of us not limiting our holdings to one coin per ruler, each of these is a reasonably desirable selection. That is the way our hobby works. What do we learn here? Buy from good dealers and find coins that fit your style and interests. </p><p><br /></p><p>Who has that better Minerva Postumus or other special Carausius mintmark variations? Show, please.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2910016, member: 19463"]This post is intended to be of some value/interest to beginners even though neither of the coins discussed are something I would expect to be a popular choice as one of your first ancients. The postman brought me two packages each containing one coin in some ways very much like and in other ways quite different. [ATTACH=full]702423[/ATTACH] The first is the one and only coin I won in last week's CNG electronic sale (409 lot 726). It was listed as having sold previously in CNG sale 204 as lot 182. At both sales it was estimated at $150 but in 2009 it brought $192 while I won it at $130 in 2017. I suspect that the 2009 sale which had a large number of coins of Carausius attracted more specialists while the one last week had a more general audience that saw the coin's faults rather than its good features. Carausius was a British breakaway ruler in the time of Diocletian. His coins might be termed 'sort of' Roman but many of his fans are interested because of his being British. This coin is unusual for its mintmark denoting the 'C' mint which has been attributed to more than one English town starting with C. Relatively fewer C mint coins used the XXI alloy mark than did the London mint so a specialist might want this coin where the rest of us would hold the reverse centering against it. The coin is the most common reverse used by Carausius (Pax) so I was more impressed by the clear mintmark and excellent portrait than turned off by the poor reverse. The point to note here is not everyone is looking for the same thing in a coin. Some would want this coin for the portrait and Carausius coins often have terrible portraits. Some (few) would want it for the scarce mintmark and some would not want it at all because of the faulty reverse centering. The two CNG sales seem to have attracted different groups of Carausius collectors. [ATTACH=full]702425[/ATTACH] The second coin is like the first in being an issue of a secessionist ruler - here the Gallic Empire founder Postumus. Coins of Postumus are many times more common than those of Carausius and available in excellent condition for much lower prices than the average Carausius. I have several coins of Postumus that are much better looking than this one which was very fairly priced by a VCoin dealer you may know (Victor of CT) at 1/5 the CNG price. Big dealers usually get more than smaller dealers but I wanted this one for the reverse. Minerva Fautrix (she who gives favor) is a typ unique to Postumus. It is far from the most rare type of Postumus but one I did not have and wanted. The coin suffers from flat striking losing detail on both sides. While billon with a decent amount of silver, the tone is gray and lacking in sharp contrast. I like the coin but one of you quite possibly has a nicer one. For a beginning collector, I consider neither coin to be a great choice. You could get a more common mintmark with a Pax Carausius for the same price. You could get a more common reverse Postumus with more eye appeal for the price. For those of us not limiting our holdings to one coin per ruler, each of these is a reasonably desirable selection. That is the way our hobby works. What do we learn here? Buy from good dealers and find coins that fit your style and interests. Who has that better Minerva Postumus or other special Carausius mintmark variations? Show, please.[/QUOTE]
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