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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2042535, member: 19463"]Mitchiner ACW 1585 - 1588 is the correct listing for Samanta Deva. It seems fashionable to put down the value of Mitchiner's massive volumes (Ancient, Non-Islamic and Islamic) but I believe their errors and shortcomings are offset by the huge resource of photos of actual coins that you will be hard pressed to find elsewhere and ID's that will at least get you close. The Shahi page has four rows of coins with little separation beyond the most basic. 1585-1588 shows four examples of Samanta Deva while earlier rows cover Spalapati Dave and Khudarayaka with a little mention on the theories of these issues. IMHO, people who think they have the complete and irrefutable details on these coins have more self confidence than they do scholarship. Showing a set of four variants of these imperfect coins (and Mitchiner's examples are more typical than selective) does about as much as the space allows. Lets remember that Mitchiner is more like Sear's one/two volume books which also try to cover way more than can be fit into a reasonable sized volume. Do you have any idea how many coins were produced in Asia and how difficult it would be to decipher their huge variety? Like all books, Mitchiner needs to be read critically but I am glad to have the two I have. I do not have the Islamic volume and long ago decided that I'll leave reading them to people who find them attractive. I don't. </p><p><br /></p><p>Having defended him let me add that the real title of Mitchiner's books is <b>Oriental Coins and their Values</b>. Sear included, I believe anyone who tries to write a book with "and their values" in the title deserves to be beaten up by critics. Mitchiner, at least, put his prices in a separate appendix at the back so they are easy to ignore. The main value I see in the books is the possibility of my quoting you a number and you being able to see a few coins that are at least remotely similar to what I was quoting. Tye has very, very nice line drawings of idealized coins that are composites of all the specimens he has seen. They are better than Mitchiner's photos in so many ways except, of course, that they are not photos and do not exist in the real world. There is a place for both.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2042535, member: 19463"]Mitchiner ACW 1585 - 1588 is the correct listing for Samanta Deva. It seems fashionable to put down the value of Mitchiner's massive volumes (Ancient, Non-Islamic and Islamic) but I believe their errors and shortcomings are offset by the huge resource of photos of actual coins that you will be hard pressed to find elsewhere and ID's that will at least get you close. The Shahi page has four rows of coins with little separation beyond the most basic. 1585-1588 shows four examples of Samanta Deva while earlier rows cover Spalapati Dave and Khudarayaka with a little mention on the theories of these issues. IMHO, people who think they have the complete and irrefutable details on these coins have more self confidence than they do scholarship. Showing a set of four variants of these imperfect coins (and Mitchiner's examples are more typical than selective) does about as much as the space allows. Lets remember that Mitchiner is more like Sear's one/two volume books which also try to cover way more than can be fit into a reasonable sized volume. Do you have any idea how many coins were produced in Asia and how difficult it would be to decipher their huge variety? Like all books, Mitchiner needs to be read critically but I am glad to have the two I have. I do not have the Islamic volume and long ago decided that I'll leave reading them to people who find them attractive. I don't. Having defended him let me add that the real title of Mitchiner's books is [B]Oriental Coins and their Values[/B]. Sear included, I believe anyone who tries to write a book with "and their values" in the title deserves to be beaten up by critics. Mitchiner, at least, put his prices in a separate appendix at the back so they are easy to ignore. The main value I see in the books is the possibility of my quoting you a number and you being able to see a few coins that are at least remotely similar to what I was quoting. Tye has very, very nice line drawings of idealized coins that are composites of all the specimens he has seen. They are better than Mitchiner's photos in so many ways except, of course, that they are not photos and do not exist in the real world. There is a place for both.[/QUOTE]
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