Two-headed two-faced coins of old? Pile-on thread

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here’s a pile-on thread for election day in the US. We shan’t discuss politics in this thread but perhaps some of you would like to share your two-faced coins? I’ve got some ancients with two faces that I can post.


    This Roman coin is mirror brockage so one side is exactly the opposite of the other. If this reminds you of one of your local candidates, please keep it to yourself. :)
    Jupiter Brockage Collage.jpg


    This Stator of Tarsos in Cilicia includes a face on each side of the coin. Again, if this reminds you of any election race, please keep it to yourself. :D
    Cilicia Tarsos Stater Collage 1.jpg

    And here is another little one from Tarsos. This one is an obol:
    Cilicia Tarsos Obol Collage 1.jpg

    Here is an interesting coin from the early days of Rome. This one might speak from both sides of its face at the same time.
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    Please post ‘em if you got ‘em.
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Gordian III and King Abgar X Phrahates
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    MESOPOTAMIA, Edessa.
    Gordian III, with Abgar X Phrahates.
    239-244 AD.
    Æ 23mm
    (9.49 gm, 5h).
    Struck 242-244 AD.
    AV[TOK K MANT [GO]RDIANOC CEB,
    radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian right; seen from behind; star before
    [ABGAROC] BACILEVC,
    mantled bust of Abgar right, bearded, wearing Parthian-style tiara with rosette; star behind.
    BMC Mesopotamia 153; SNG Copenhagen 226.
     
  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Here's a Constantine I brockage from Siscia which would have been a VLPP reverse.


    Constantine VLPP brockage.jpg
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    All Republicans (I guess the Democrats did not issue Roman coins?), all jugate

    The first has Honor and Virtue. I'm not sure how that applies here.
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    Two with the Dioscuri:
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    Two kings of old ( Numa Pompilius and Ancus Marcius):
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    Two Dei Penetes:
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL @Collect89 GREAT subject for Tuesday!!! NAILED it!

    TWO-FACED BROCKAGE:
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    RR AR Denarius ERROR BROCKAGE ROMA Helmeted Head-Incuse and reverse of obverse - 2nd-1st C BCE

    OVERSTRIKE of MERCURY and POSEIDON!
    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE S1211 Cr69-6 Obv-Rev.jpg
    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE S1211 Cr69/6


    DOUBLE-STRIKE of a TWO-FACED JANUFORM!!! SUPER Double-faced!
    RR M Furius ERROR DOUBLE-STRIKE AR Den119 BC Janus Trophy Carnyx S 156 Cr 281-1 O-R.jpg
    RR M Furius ERROR DOUBLE-STRIKE AR Den119 BC Janus Trophy Carnyx S 156 Cr 281/1


    AE JANUS:
    RR Atili Saran AE As 148 BC Janus ROMA Prow S 399 Cr 214-2a O-R.jpg
    RR Atili Saran AE As 148 BC Janus ROMA Prow S 399 Cr 214/2a

    RR Anon AE As after 211 BC Janus I Prow Cr 56-2 Sear 627 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AE As after 211 BC Janus I Prow Cr 56-2 Sear 627
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    JUGATE:
    RR Cordius Rufus 46 BCE AR Den Jugate Dioscuri Venus scales S 440 Cr 463-1 Obv-Rev.jpg
    RR Cordius Rufus 46 BCE AR Den Jugate Dioscuri Venus scales S 440 Cr 463/1


    AE DIOSCURI:
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    RR Anon AE 23 Quincunx 6-96g Apollo P behind Dioscuri Luceria 5 pellets Cr 99/4 Syd 309 S 910

    AR DIOSCURI:
    RR Servilius 136 BCE Roma Dioscuri galloping S 116 Cr 239-1 Obv-Rev.jpg
    RR Servilius 136 BCE Roma Dioscuri galloping S 116 Cr 239/1

    RR Anon AR Quinarius 211-208 BC Roma Dioscuri S 42 Cr 47-1a O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AR Quinarius 211-208 BC Roma Dioscuri S 42 Cr 47/1a

    RR Anon AR Quinarius 211-208 BC Roma Dioscuri S 42 Cr 44-6 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AR Quinarius 211-208 BC Roma Dioscuri S 42 Cr 44-6
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ROMAN REPUBLIC AES GRAVE:
    RR AE Aes Grave Sextans 270 BCE 37mm 55-28g Dioscuri R and L Obv-Rev.JPG
    RR AE Aes Grave Sextans 270 BCE 37mm 55.28g Dioscuri R and L

    ROMAN REPUBLIC AES GRAVE - TWO KNUCKLES!!!
    (or kinda like two "birds..."?)

    RR Aes Grave Uncia 269-240 BCE Astragalus knuckle-bones - obv-rev.JPG
    RR Aes Grave Uncia 269-240 BCE Astragalus knuckle-bones
     
  10. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    :):):):)

    Here's a cute Republican mascot & a Biga of the Democratic:
    Elephant Septimus Collage.jpg
    Messana Tet 2 Collage.jpg

    Mules are half donkey so that works right?
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    And, yes, the Roman Republic QUADRIGATUS:
    RR Anon Quadrigatus Janus 225-215 BCE Cr 28-3 S 31 Obv-Rev.jpg

    RR Anon Quadrigatus - DIDRACHM Janus 225-215 BCE Cr 28/3 S 31

    RR Anon AR Quadrigatus 215-213 Janus Roma Relief tablet S 32 Cr 29-3 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AR Quadrigatus - DIDRACHM 215-213 Janus Roma Relief tablet S 32 Cr 29/3

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    RR Anon 225-214 BCE BILLON Quadrigatus-Janus DIDRACHM Janus-Jupiter galloping quadriga r 18.2mm 4.1g Cr 28/3 S 33

    THIS one is a little harder to find... Quadrigatus DRACHM
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    RR Anon Quadrigatus AR Drachm 216-214 BCE Janus ROMA Jupiter Victory Quadriga LEFT Cr 29/4 S 35
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    EMPIRE TWO-FACED?

    RI Poppea-Nero BI tetradrachm of Alexandria LI yr10 63-64AD Milne 217 RPC 5275 O-R.jpg

    RI Poppea-Nero BI tetradrachm of Alexandria LI yr10 63-64AD Milne 217 RPC 5275

    These two won't even LOOK at each other! :) Although they are best-buddies!
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    RI Agustus oak crown -Agrippa rostral crown L AE Dupondius 26mm 12-6g 10-14 CE Nemausus chained Croc wreaths RIC I 158

    Aurelian KILLED this guy later on...
    RI Vabalathus 271-272 CE and Aurelian Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Vabalathus 271-272 CE and Aurelian

    RI Didumenian and Macrinus 217-218 CE AE28 Markianopolis mint Serapis Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Didumenian and Macrinus 217-218 CE AE28 Markianopolis mint Serapis

    RI Nero and Drusus Caesar under Tiberius Carthago Nova mint AE As 14-37 CE Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Nero and Drusus Caesar under Tiberius Carthago Nova mint AE As 14-37 CE

    RI Otho 69 CE BI AR Tet 23mm Egypt Helmeted Roma Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Otho 69 CE BI AR Tet 23mm Egypt Helmeted Roma
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    IMPERATORIAL:

    RImp Brutus-Ahala 54 BC JBrutus cons 509 BC ServAhala mstr hrse 439 BC S398Cr433-2 Obv-Rev.JPG
    RImp Brutus-Ahala 54 BC JBrutus cons 509 BC ServAhala mstr hrse 439 BC S398 Cr433/2

    GREEK:

    Iona-Ephesos AR Obol Bee - opposing stag heads 340 BCE Seaby Obv-Rev.jpg

    Iona-Ephesos AR Obol Bee - opposing stag heads 340 BCE Seaby
    (STAG PARTY!)
     
  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Claudius and Nero
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    my most recent two faced coin...

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    HERMOCAPELIA, LYDIA: TIME OF HADRIAN 117-138 AD

    O: Bust of Senate. R: Turreted head of Roma. SNG Cop 165. 17 mm, 2.5 g
     
  16. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Pompey
    4.2.16 003.JPG
    4.2.16 005.JPG

    Octavian and Mark A
    Belaire Coin Show 1.23.16 Octav.JPG
    Belaire Coin Show 1.23.16 Mark A.JPG
     
  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Antony and Octavia cistophorus: Antony and Octavia cistophorus.jpg

    Augustus and Livia from Hispalis
    Augustus and Livia Hispalis.jpg

    Calligula and Caesonia:
    Calligula and Caesonia.jpg

    Antiochus VIII and Cleopatra Thea:
    Cleopatra Thea Antiochus VIII.jpg

    Elagabalus and Julia Maesa, Marcianopolis:
    Elagabalus and Maesa Marcianopolis.jpg

    Gordian III and Tranquillina, Anchialus:
    Gordian and Tranquillina Anchialos.jpg

    Hermaios and Calliope drachm:
    Hermaios and Calliope drachm.jpg
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Actually, most accounts have Aurelian sparing the lives of Vabalathus and Zenobia after they were paraded in his triumph. He did the same with the defeated Gallic usurper Tetricus, even giving him a cushy official job in southern Italy. Not all the emperors were savages!... only most of them :D.

    These two guys on the other hand...

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  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Supporter! Supporter

    Some that haven't been posted in this thread yet

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    Julius Caesar and Mark Antony, Denarius minted in 43 BC
    M ANTO IMP RPC, Head of Mark Antony right, lituus behind him
    CAESAR DIC, Head of Caesar right, jug behind him
    3.76 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 123, RCV #1465, Cohen #3


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    Lepidus and Octavian, Denarius minted in Italy, 42 BC
    LEPIDVS PONT MAX III V R P C, bare head of Lepidus right (NT and MA in monograms)
    C CAESAR IMPIII VIR R P C, bare head of Octavian right (MP in monogram)
    3.78 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 140, RCV # 1523, Cohen # 2

    The following from forum catalog :
    "Lepidus was a faithful follower of Julius Caesar, and he served as Praetor and Consul. When Caesar was assassinated, Lepidus was in charge of the cavalry and commanded a legion. This position secured him a place in the Second Triumvirate along Marc Antony and Octavian. His cut was Africa. When Octavian attacked Sextus Pompey's Sicily, Lepidus' ships and troops supported him. In an uninspired move, Lepidus thought he could force Octavian to leave him the island. The two armies separated and isolated skirmishes occurred, but soon the soldiers sick of yet another civil war, acknowledging Octavian's superiority deserted Lepidus en-masse. Lepidus left the island as a simple civilian, retaining only his priesthood, but he was the only defeated Imperator not to suffer a violent death."

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    Mark Antony and Lucius Antonius, Denarius minted in Ephesus in 41 BC
    M ANT IMP AVG III VIR RPCM NERVA PROQ P, Bare head of Mark Antony right
    L ANTONIUS COS, Bare head of Lucius Antonius right
    3.58 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 246, RCV #1509, Cohen #2
    Following description taken from NAC auction 40, #617, about an other example of the same coin :
    "This denarius, depicting the bare heads of Marc Antony and his youngest brother Lucius Antony, is a rare dual-portrait issue of the Imperatorial period. The family resemblance is uncanny, and one wonders if they truly looked this much alike, or if it is another case of portrait fusion, much like we observe with the dual-portrait billon tetradrachms of Antioch on which the face of the Egyptian queen Cleopatra VII takes on the square dimensions of Marc Antony. When Antony fled Rome to separate himself from Octavian and to take up his governorship in Gaul, Lucius went with him, and suffered equally from the siege of Mutina. This coin, however, was struck in a later period, when Lucius had for a second time taken up arms against Octavian in the west. Marc Antony was already in the east, and that is the region from which this coinage emanates. Since Lucius lost the ‘Perusine War’ he waged against Octavian, and was subsequently appointed to an office in Spain, where he died, it is likely that he never even saw one of his portrait coins."


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    Octavian & Agrippa, AE Dupondius Arausio mint (Orange), 30-29 BC (Colonia Firma Julia Secundanorum Arausio)
    IMP DIVI F (IMPerator DIVI Filii), bare heads of Augustus (right) and Agrippa (left), back to back
    Prow of galley right, ram's head (?) enclosed in a medaillion above
    17.61 gr - 28 mm.
    Ref : RPC # 533
    Ex. CNG e-auction #181/28, from the Patrick Villemur collection

    Following comment taken from http://www.asdenimes.com/ :

    "Un très bel exemplaire du dupondius d'Orange. Têtes adossées d'Agrippa (à gauche) et Octave (à droite). Très beaux reliefs.
    L’as (ou dupondius) d’Orange est très rare et nombre d'exemplaires connus (quelques dizaines) sont souvent de médiocre conservation. Le dupondius d'Orange préfigure le dupondius de Nîmes frappé à partir de 28/27 av. J.-C. et qui reprendra l’avers quasiment à l’identique (y compris les légendes), avec les profils d’Octave devenu Auguste et d’Agrippa. Le revers sera interprété de façon parodique sur l’as de Nîmes, puisque la galère sera remplacée par le crocodile qui garde à peu près la forme générale du vaisseau et dont l’oeil prophylactique (pas visible sur cet exemplaire : voir les as de Vienne page suivante) deviendra l’oeil du crocodile. On y ajoutera la palme pour former le mat et quelques autres accessoires tout aussi symboliques.
    La tête de bélier représentée dans le médaillon du revers serait l’emblème des vétérans de la légio II Gallica qui a fondé la colonie d’Arausio vers 35 av. J.-C.
    On distingue 2 types de dupondius d'Orange : ceux dont les portraits occupent la plus grande partie de l'avers et ceux qui montrent des têtes plutôt petites
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Supporter! Supporter

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    ROMAN EMPIRE, TRAJAN Tetradrachm, Prieur 1495 Tyre mint, c. AD 110-111
    ΑΥΤΟΚΡ ΚΑΙC ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑΝΟC CΕΒ ΓΕΡΜ ΔΑΚ, Laureate bust of Trajan right, eagle in field
    ΔΗΜΑΡΚ ΕΞ ΥΠΑTΕ, Laureate bust of Melkhart right
    15.34 gr
    Ref : Sear #1088 var, Prieur # 1495_179


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    Trajan, Bronze struck in Laodicea, c114-115 AD
    AUTOKR NER TRAIANOC ARICT(KAIC CEB), laureate head of Trajan right
    IOULIEWN TWN KAI LAODIKEWN BXR, Turreted bust of Tychee right, IOU in field
    9.97 gr
    Ref : Sear #1080


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    Aurelian and Severina, Double sestertius Rome mint AD 274-275
    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust of Aurelian right
    SEVERINA AVG, diademed and draped bust of Severina right, on crescent
    11.18 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 1, RIC # 2, RCV # 11696


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    Constantine the Great, Follis No mint mark, attributed to Treveri
    CONSTANTINVS PF AVG, laureate and cuirassed bust right
    SOLI INVICTO COMITI, radiate and draped bust of Sol right
    3.63 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 514, Roman coins IV # 3867

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