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<p>[QUOTE="calcol, post: 8458969, member: 77639"]I’ve encountered the situation in the title a few times. Usually, the coin, which was uniquely identifiable based on cert. no., was offered at the same time by two dealers via online websites. Couple of times, I was emailed by a dealer offering a coin, and email included picture of the slab. Found same coin offered at same price on another dealer’s website. All the dealers are known for negotiating price; so, offering price wasn’t necessarily the final price.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it makes me wonder, what sort of deal is involved between the dealers. Maybe both dealers were selling the coin on consignment for a third party and neither knew that the other dealer was offering it. Possible, but seems unlikely. If I found the coin online quickly, so would a dealer.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, (1) either or both took a coin on consignment from a third party and both knew about it. Or (2) the coin belongs to one dealer, and the other is advertising it on consignment from the first. Or (3), the coin is jointly owned. Other possibilities?</p><p><br /></p><p>With (1), it’s possible the consignor set a minimum price they expect to receive and may have specified or suggested a asking price that the dealers should use. Unless the dealers colluded on what they would actually accept as a final price to a potential buyer, I don’t think same asking price is unethical.</p><p><br /></p><p>With (2), again, I’m not sure colluding on asking price is unethical as long as they don’t collude on minimal acceptable price.</p><p><br /></p><p>(3) is probably uncommon. As long as the ownership of one dealer isn’t just a token share, then the dealers could be considered one entity selling its coin. Jointly deciding on an acceptable final price would not be unethical.</p><p><br /></p><p>I’ve never tried to find out the final asking price of two dealers selling the same coin at the same time. The final prices of the dealer who emailed me were always way higher than current auction prices … so, no deal. It seemed likely the final price of the other dealer would also be unreasonably high. I didn’t contact them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even though it can be completely ethical, still makes me suspicious when two dealers offer same coin at same price. How ‘bout you?</p><p><br /></p><p>Cal[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="calcol, post: 8458969, member: 77639"]I’ve encountered the situation in the title a few times. Usually, the coin, which was uniquely identifiable based on cert. no., was offered at the same time by two dealers via online websites. Couple of times, I was emailed by a dealer offering a coin, and email included picture of the slab. Found same coin offered at same price on another dealer’s website. All the dealers are known for negotiating price; so, offering price wasn’t necessarily the final price. But it makes me wonder, what sort of deal is involved between the dealers. Maybe both dealers were selling the coin on consignment for a third party and neither knew that the other dealer was offering it. Possible, but seems unlikely. If I found the coin online quickly, so would a dealer. So, (1) either or both took a coin on consignment from a third party and both knew about it. Or (2) the coin belongs to one dealer, and the other is advertising it on consignment from the first. Or (3), the coin is jointly owned. Other possibilities? With (1), it’s possible the consignor set a minimum price they expect to receive and may have specified or suggested a asking price that the dealers should use. Unless the dealers colluded on what they would actually accept as a final price to a potential buyer, I don’t think same asking price is unethical. With (2), again, I’m not sure colluding on asking price is unethical as long as they don’t collude on minimal acceptable price. (3) is probably uncommon. As long as the ownership of one dealer isn’t just a token share, then the dealers could be considered one entity selling its coin. Jointly deciding on an acceptable final price would not be unethical. I’ve never tried to find out the final asking price of two dealers selling the same coin at the same time. The final prices of the dealer who emailed me were always way higher than current auction prices … so, no deal. It seemed likely the final price of the other dealer would also be unreasonably high. I didn’t contact them. Even though it can be completely ethical, still makes me suspicious when two dealers offer same coin at same price. How ‘bout you? Cal[/QUOTE]
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