Two contrasting Licinius Folles

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    In my recent LRBs there were a few coins of Licinius I. I thought that these two were worth sharing. Each has pleasing characteristics.

    The Alexandrian has the typical stylised portrait from the mint.The reverse suffers from a decent amount of wear but the coin has toned to a greeny gold in the fields which makes the coin almost glow.

    The portrait on the Trier coin is much more realistic looking and he has an almost wistful look.There is lots of detail on both sides all the way down to the laced boots on Genius. The coin has toned to a very dark green but there are some earthen deposits stillaround the letters that I quite like.

    Licinius I - Follis

    Obv:– IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    Rev:– IOVI CONSER-VATORI AVGG, Jupiter standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding Victory on globe and sceptre; eagle with wreath at foot left
    Minted in Alexandria (_ | Wreath over B over N / ALE). A.D. 314
    Reference(s) – RIC VII Alexandria 10 (R2)

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    Licinius I - Follis

    Obv:– IMP LICINIVS P F AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– GENIO POP ROM, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys round waist, left hand holding cornucopiae and right hand holding patera
    Minted in Trier (T | F / BTR).
    Reference(s) – RIC VII Trier 119 (C1)

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  3. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Cool coins Martin
    I've only one of Licinius I, which RIC also lists as R2. It's an Antioch mint.
    I have only a small handful of coins after Constantine I, but several before his reign.
    I really need to take a better photo of this guy.
    Licinius I [RARE2].jpg
    Licinius I
    Ae follis 23mm, 6.6g Antioch 310AD
    IMP C LICINIVS PF AVG
    laureate bust right
    GENIO IMPERATORIS
    Genius standing left holding patera and cornucopiae. Altar with star left, E right field. ANT in exergue
    RIC VI Antioch 133b R2
     
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  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great Licinius @maridvnvm ! I always enjoy your postings...

    I only have one Licinius I:

    RI Licinius I 308-324 CE AE3 Jupiter w Eagle.jpg
    RI Licinius I 308-324 CE AE3 Jupiter w Eagle
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Those are lovely coins Martin! There is an entire universe to collect in the IOVI CONSERVATORI series - many varieties, many mints, and you can find the coins in all states of preservation, from copiously silvered to deeply patinated, to downright crusty. Here are four of Licinius I and two of Liinius II...

    iovi composite licinii k.jpg
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Very nice, Martin.

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    Licinius I (308 - 324 A.D.)
    Æ3
    O: IMP LICINIVS AVG, Laureate bust left wearing Imperial mantle and holding mappa, sceptre and globe.
    R: PROVIDENTIAE AVGG, Campgate with 6 rows of bricks,
    Pellet in right field, SMHA in exe.
    3.3g
    19mm
    RIC VII Heraclea 29 (R2)
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Cool campgate @Mat !
     
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks, it's my only campgate too!
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's my alexandrian licinius/jupiter combo to join the party!

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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Those are lovely. I have one similar to your Trier but not as nice:

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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That second coin in the OP is a keeper!

    I have a few types that haven't been shown in the thread yet...

    Sol rather than Jupiter. Ticinum.
    Licinius - Sol 1280.jpg
    Jupiter on an eagle. Trier.
    Licinius - Jupiter on Eagle 742.jpg
    VLPP. Siscia.
    Licinius - 2 Victories 702.jpg
     
  14. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I find the patera on Martin's second follis very interesting. It almost looks like a crescent moon. I guess what we're seeing is the patera held by the handle and pointing almost straight down? Most of the time on coins it seems that the patera is just held like one might hold a dinner plate. This handle-held patera is a lovely detail.

    Here's an image from http://www.royalathena.com/PAGES/RomanCatalog/Bronze/Vessels/WH1107C.html

    WH1107C.jpg
     
  15. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

  16. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    Martin, both coins are super nice! congrats.

    Doug
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool OP-additions, Martin (and it's always a lesson reading your posts)

    I happen to have a pretty cool example of this dude ... wanna see it (again)?


    Licinius I.jpg

    I always smile when I see my example ... my Jupiter looks like he's in his PJ's getting ready for bed

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That's my favorite as well---Just terrific!!

    What an amazing array of styles! I can't help but favor the more life-like portraits and so many have already been posted....and what wonderful reverses!

    How about one of Junior???


    LICINIUS II, 317-324 AD. AE Follis (2.98 gm), Antioch 317-20. Laureate robed bust with mappa, globe and sceptre / Jupiter standing with Victory and sceptre, captive at feet. RIC.29. XF, green black patina.
    licinius II jupiter captive (1).jpg
     
  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I stumbled across another common Licinius from Trier but a cuirassed type. It was too cheap to walk away from.

    Obv:– IMP LICINIVS P F AVG, Laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– GENIO POP ROM, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys round waist, left hand holding cornucopiae and right hand holding patera
    Minted in Trier (T | F / PTR).
    Reference:– RIC VI Trier 845b

    Nearly fully silvered.

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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Alexandria always has a way for interesting portraits.....their way!
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    London
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    Rome
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    Heraclea but quite different style than Mat, Bing and Steve showed
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  21. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    A humble Licinius:

    licinius1.jpg

    licinius2.jpg

    A bit worn, but I kind of like it. It came out a grab bag of 250 LRB coins.
     
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