Twenty Cent piece reference?

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  1. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know of a book that discusses the 20 cent piece (1875-1878, I believe). I'm coinsidering putting together a high grade, date/mint mark set just because it's a little bit of an oddball and is a rather short series.

    I checked Amazon and couldn't find any books about them.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

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  5. dfraser

    dfraser Junior Member

    in putting together this short set, you do realize that you will be chasing one of the great rarities of the US Mint.
     
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  6. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Yeah you may want to skip the 1876 CC...
     
  7. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Definitely pick up John Frost's and Lane Brunner's book from the doubledimes.com website.

    Second, completely skip over K. Flynns book, doesn't seem to be anything more than a collation of all available information into a thrown together book. Some of the major 20c collectors have even mentioned there are several errors and typos.

    Third, do yourself the biggest favor if you are even remotely interested in twenty cent pieces and any other seated coinage.
    Become a member of the LSCC or Liberty Seated Collectors Club. It's $20 per year and you get access to almost all of the experienced collectors and dealers of the series. It's the best rate for a specialty club and they are highly active and provide many advantageous tools and resources.

    Lsccweb.org

    And to keep the thread going strong

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    1875-CC NGC AU-55
     
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  8. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member


    Ummmm.....hey. I clicked on your link from a government owned computer (I'm deployed), and it was blocked and flagged as pornography. WTF?!?!?!?!
     
  9. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    I clicked the link and can assure you it isn't pornographic unless you're reaaally into 20C pieces. That's odd it got flagged.
     
  10. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    It must be confusing double dimes for double DDs
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  12. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah they block random sites sometimes like that. Sometimes they blanket block stuff. I've had the same problem.
     
  13. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Forgot to add to keep an eye out for Q. David Bowers new book on the complete seated series across all denominations. There is an announcement and presentation coming to the ANA show during one of the LSCC meetings.

    I think the book is slated for release this fall.
     
  14. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    Lol. Came here to post along those lines. double dames?
     
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  15. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    This discussion brings up a subject I never really thought about before. In 1875, what were these coins called? Double Dimes? We generally use the term Twenty Cent Piece now but that seems cumbersome. Using the Quarter (a quarter of a dollar) as a reference we might call it a Fifth (a fifth of a dollar). Anything's better than a Quad Nickel.
     
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  16. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Good question. Looks like the book covers that topic!

    http://www.doubledimes.com/Introduction.html

    From the previous link:

    1.1 The Origin of the Denomination

    A silver coin with a value of twenty cents, also known at the time as a double disme1 , was among those pieces first proposed to Congress to be coined by a new national mint. The Mint began striking copper cents and half cents in 1793, half dismes, half dollars, and dollars in 1794, and it was not until 1796 that other fractional silver coins were produced. By this time, however, the double disme had been replaced by a quarter dollar as the piece to sit between the disme and half dollar. It was not until another 78 years had passed that the twenty-cent piece was considered seriously by Congress in 1874. The following year the denomination was finally produced. Its life, however, was short. Only sixteen months after the law authorizing its production was signed by the President, a bill was introduced to the House of Representatives to repeal the authorization of the Mint to coin twenty-cent pieces. Although its reality as a denomination was brief, several times since the decision to establish the Mint, the idea of a twenty-cent denomination has arisen.

    And the footnote for those curious as to what was mentioned there:

    1The term disme would later fall out a favor and be replaced with dime.
     
  17. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    So, in the 1700's the proposed twenty cent coin, that was never produced, was called Double Dime (Disme). The second proposal to Congress for the coin in 1806 also used the term Double Dime. However, in 1875 when things got serious the official terminology was Twenty Cent Piece and when it actually went into production Congress and the Mint called it the Twenty Cent Piece. However, when it quickly went out of favor many newspapers referred to it as the Double Dime. From this I conclude that the public knew it as the Double Dime. I think I'll use that term from now on; it rolls off the tongue much easier than Twenty Cent Piece.
     
  18. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Thats a much more in depth analysis then any effort I put forth lol. I just read like one sentence of the paragraph i posted. It seemed to answer your question and i thought it made me look smart, lmao.

    So yeah, im gonna say everything you wrote is pretty much it, and yes I like Double Dime too!
     
  19. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    yeah...coin porn!
     
  20. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Did somebody say twenty cent piece?
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    Sorry, I can't pass up a chance to post one of my favorite coins. It took almost a decade to finally get this one.
     
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  21. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Wow that's a beauty! What is that, a PF65?
     
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