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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 7521574, member: 91461"]A CT pal and I have been PMing back and forth on some of our recent wins, what's beautiful to us and why we like them. And it's been really fun as our tastes are similar but we have different goals. It reminded me just how much I enjoy hearing about why others are drawn to this unique/quirky/sexy hobby of ours.</p><p>Frankly, I really don't understand why more folks aren't into history, specifically ancients!</p><p>What are they all thinking NOT collecting ancients!?!</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyways, on to the coins!</p><p>This might be my first favorite coin. The kind when it finally arrives you can't believe you have it so much that the next day you are still eager to get it in hand to run it through your fingers and look at it through good light. Oh, and artistry, dolphins, beautiful lady, history, Sicily and it having been made by an actual Celator<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie16" alt=":artist:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and not some scrub die engraver<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie34" alt=":clown:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>She's a</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]_PVjcIO4MT4[/MEDIA]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298979[/ATTACH]</p><p>SICILY. Syracuse. Deinomenid Tyranny</p><p>485-466 BC. AR Tetradrachm (24mm - 17.45 g). Struck circa 480-475 BC. Charioteer driving walking quadriga right, holding kentron and reins; Nike flying above crowning horses / Diademed head of Arethusa right, surrounded by four dolphins swimming clockwise. Boehringer 134 (V60/R93); SNG ANS 38 (same dies); Randazzo -. rev sl off-ctr, sl surface imperfections,most notably a horizontal scratchlike flaw in obv right field.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then my next "favorite" came along. And she was BIG, beautiful and a</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]rrBx6mAWYPU[/MEDIA]</p><p>from one of the most fascinating and pivotal times in all of history... imagine if Hannibal HAD marched on Rome!?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298984[/ATTACH]</p><p>ROMAN REPUBLIC. Anonymous. AE Aes Grave Triens (92.37 gms), Rome Mint, ca. 225-217 B.C. VERY FINE.</p><p>Cr-35/3a; TV-53. Obverse: Helmeted head of Minerva left; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk; Reverse: Prow right; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk. A pleasing specimen despite its crudeness, with charming green surfaces. A test cut across Minerva's face is noted for completeness.</p><p>Ex Stacks & Bowers</p><p><br /></p><p>Somewhere around or slightly before this I realized just how excited I was for... you guessed it, MSCs! When Alexander the Great and later his Diadochi were conquering everything in sight</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]04854XqcfCY[/MEDIA]</p><p> THIS was the coinage of basic commerce for the polis:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298988[/ATTACH]</p><p>Macedonian Kingdom. Anonymous issues.</p><p>Ca. 323-310 B.C. AE half unit (17 mm, 3.93 g, 1 h). Uncertain mint in Western Asia Minor. Head of Herakles facing 3/4 right, wearing lion's skin headdress, forming central boss of Macedonian shield ornamented with five double crescents / Crested Macedonian helmet with cheek guards; caduceus to right, monogram to left. var (monogram and symbol arrangement); SNG Alpha Bank 849 var (quarter unit, no monogram); cf. Liampi 139-156. VF. Rare Variety.</p><p>Former Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>The Antigonid dynasty lasted for generations, but started with Antigonus the one eyed:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298989[/ATTACH]</p><p>Antigonos I Monophthalmos</p><p>As king, 306/5-301 BC. Æ Unit (15mm, 3.75 g, 12h). Salamis mint. Struck under Demetrios I Poliorketes. Macedonian shield, boss decorated with facing gorgoneion / Macedonian helmet; kerykeion and monogram to lower left and right. Price 3159 (c. 323-315 BC); Zapiti & Michaelidou 7–8. VF, dark patina</p><p>Ex: Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298990[/ATTACH]</p><p>Antiochos III Megas</p><p>Seleukid Kingdom. Uncertain (military) mint 60. 223-187 BC. Struck 202-187 BC Bronze Æ 17mm., 4,60g. Macedonian shield with gorgoneion in central boss / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑNΤΙΟΧΟΥ, elephant walking right, anchor above, monogram of ΠΑ below. very fine SC 1089.3a; HGC 9, 490</p><p>Former: Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>So great were these that, just like everything else Greek, the Romans had to get in on the fun. If course to the Greeks the Romans were the</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]GR35pRz7JQ8[/MEDIA]:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298994[/ATTACH]</p><p>Macedonia under Roman rule</p><p>AR tetradrachm- 16,21 gram,31 mm, struck after 168AD at Amphipolis</p><p>obv: diademed head of Artemis Tauropolos facing right with quiver over shoulder in the center of a Macedonian shield, shield decorated with seven eight-pointed stars within double crescents</p><p>rev: Club of Herakles within oak wreath, monograms and legend around, thunderbolt at left</p><p>AMNG III, 159, SNG Cop 1314, BMC 2</p><p>Ex NB-Numismatics</p><p>"After the defeat of Perseus at the battle of Pydna in 168 BC, the Romans divided Macedonia into four separate autonomous administrative regions ( merides ). The first region (ΠPΩTEΣ) lay east of the Strymon with its capital at Amphipolis, the second (ΔEYTEPAΣ) between the Strymon and Axios with its capital at Thessalonica, the third between the Axios and Peneos with its capital at Pella, and the fourth (TETAPTHΣ) included most of Upper Macedonia with its capital at Heraclea Lynci. These four regions only lasted until 148 BC when the country was finally united to constitute a Roman Province and proceeded to issue coins under the authority of its legatus pro praetore. Livy informs us that initially all commerce between the regions, exploitation of the silver and gold mines and the importation of salt were forbidden. Almost all the coinage of this period is struck in the name of the first region and runs parallel to the mass coinages of Thasos and Maroneia from about 158 BC. The first region was the most prolific in its coin issues, striking huge issues of tetradrachms and bronze. The second region had only two issues of tetradrachms and the fourth had only two issues of bronzes. Coins from these two regions are very rare today. No coinage is known from the third region."</p><p><br /></p><p>I have a feeling this was minted under Nero, but no proof to back that up other than similarities:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298993[/ATTACH]</p><p>Pseudo-autonomous issue, 1st century AD. (Bronze, 17 mm, 4.97 g), Beroia. Macedonian shield. Rev. MΑΚΕΔΟΝΩΝ Nike standing to left on globe, holding wreath with the extended right hand and palm branch with the left. SNG Cop. 1331. SNG ANS.-. RPC -. Unusual and rare; a very interesting exampleA very interesting and scarce emission of the Macedonian Koinon</p><p>MACEDON. Koinon of Macedon. Ex: Munzzentrum</p><p><br /></p><p>And then the Romans kind of had this fun little coin caked the Denarius<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Oh, funny. On top of the stellar artistry and toning it's the portrait of Philip V, the last truly GREAT<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie58" alt=":jimlad:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> King of Macedon:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298995[/ATTACH]</p><p>L. MARCIUS PHILIPPUS. Denarius (112 or 113 BC). Rome.</p><p>Obv: Head of Philip V of Macedon right, wearing diademed royal Macedonian helmet with goat horns; Roma monogram to upper left, Φ to lower right.</p><p>Rev: L PHILIPPVS .</p><p>Equestrian statue right; mark of value in exergue. Crawford 293/1. VF 3.99 g. 19 mm. Ex Numismatik Naumann</p><p>Purchased Jan/2021</p><p><br /></p><p>And how about Greek style and level of beauty and artistry mixed in with whimsy and mythology<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I'll take two please;</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298996[/ATTACH]</p><p>Creperius, Rocus</p><p>Denarius. 68 BC. Uncertain mint. (Ffc-657). (Craw-399-1b). (Cal-522). Obv: Bust of the back of the Sea Goddess to the right, C to the right, to the left crab. Rev .: Neptune with trident, in biga pulled by hippocampi to the right, below Q CREPER M (F) / ROCVS. Ag. 3.61 g. Usually struck off center. Very scarce. VF.</p><p>Ex: Tauler & Fau</p><p>"There is barely anything known about the gens Crepereia, which makes it difficult to explain the marine imagery present on this type. Eckhel regards this coin as referring to the colony of Corinth, but Caesar did not annexe the region as a province until 44 BC, which is in disagreement with the dating of the coin. There were, however, cults at Corinth dedicated to both Neptune and Venus well into the Roman age. There are inscriptions which confirm that the gens maintained a trading presence throughout the Mediterranean, being recorded as active in the East and North Africa; it is possible the moneyer's family also had a presence at or connection to Corinth which was significant to them, but is now lost to history.</p><p>The female bust on the obverse is often described as the sea-goddess Amphitrite, but in his analysis of the coin, Andrew McCabe argues that Venus is the more likely candidate to accompany Neptune.</p><p>While we cannot be certain as to why the moneyer chose this particular imagery, Tacitus does relate how Neptune was less than propitious towards his descendent Crepereius Gallus who was killed in an assassination attempt against Agrippina when he boarded the self-sinking boat Nero had commissioned."</p><p><br /></p><p>If I have to tell you why I'm in love with this coin, we'll first off, welcome to Coin Talk. I'm Ryro aaaand</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]X53ZSxkQ3Ho[/MEDIA]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1298999[/ATTACH]</p><p>Julia Domna</p><p>Denarius . 193-196 AD . Rome . (Ric- 536 ). Ob .: IVLIA DOMNA AVG, Bust draped to the right . Rev .: VENERI VICTR, Venus standing to the right, leaning on a column, holding a palm and an apple . Ag . 3.18 g. Displaced. Tone . EBC . Tauler & Fau Jan 2021</p><p><br /></p><p>I, and we, would love to see some of YOUR favs and maybe read why they appeal to you<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 7521574, member: 91461"]A CT pal and I have been PMing back and forth on some of our recent wins, what's beautiful to us and why we like them. And it's been really fun as our tastes are similar but we have different goals. It reminded me just how much I enjoy hearing about why others are drawn to this unique/quirky/sexy hobby of ours. Frankly, I really don't understand why more folks aren't into history, specifically ancients! What are they all thinking NOT collecting ancients!?! Anyways, on to the coins! This might be my first favorite coin. The kind when it finally arrives you can't believe you have it so much that the next day you are still eager to get it in hand to run it through your fingers and look at it through good light. Oh, and artistry, dolphins, beautiful lady, history, Sicily and it having been made by an actual Celator:artist: and not some scrub die engraver:clown:;) She's a [MEDIA=youtube]_PVjcIO4MT4[/MEDIA] [ATTACH=full]1298979[/ATTACH] SICILY. Syracuse. Deinomenid Tyranny 485-466 BC. AR Tetradrachm (24mm - 17.45 g). Struck circa 480-475 BC. Charioteer driving walking quadriga right, holding kentron and reins; Nike flying above crowning horses / Diademed head of Arethusa right, surrounded by four dolphins swimming clockwise. Boehringer 134 (V60/R93); SNG ANS 38 (same dies); Randazzo -. rev sl off-ctr, sl surface imperfections,most notably a horizontal scratchlike flaw in obv right field. And then my next "favorite" came along. And she was BIG, beautiful and a [MEDIA=youtube]rrBx6mAWYPU[/MEDIA] from one of the most fascinating and pivotal times in all of history... imagine if Hannibal HAD marched on Rome!? [ATTACH=full]1298984[/ATTACH] ROMAN REPUBLIC. Anonymous. AE Aes Grave Triens (92.37 gms), Rome Mint, ca. 225-217 B.C. VERY FINE. Cr-35/3a; TV-53. Obverse: Helmeted head of Minerva left; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk; Reverse: Prow right; four pellets (mark of value) below; all set upon raised disk. A pleasing specimen despite its crudeness, with charming green surfaces. A test cut across Minerva's face is noted for completeness. Ex Stacks & Bowers Somewhere around or slightly before this I realized just how excited I was for... you guessed it, MSCs! When Alexander the Great and later his Diadochi were conquering everything in sight [MEDIA=youtube]04854XqcfCY[/MEDIA] THIS was the coinage of basic commerce for the polis: [ATTACH=full]1298988[/ATTACH] Macedonian Kingdom. Anonymous issues. Ca. 323-310 B.C. AE half unit (17 mm, 3.93 g, 1 h). Uncertain mint in Western Asia Minor. Head of Herakles facing 3/4 right, wearing lion's skin headdress, forming central boss of Macedonian shield ornamented with five double crescents / Crested Macedonian helmet with cheek guards; caduceus to right, monogram to left. var (monogram and symbol arrangement); SNG Alpha Bank 849 var (quarter unit, no monogram); cf. Liampi 139-156. VF. Rare Variety. Former Savoca The Antigonid dynasty lasted for generations, but started with Antigonus the one eyed: [ATTACH=full]1298989[/ATTACH] Antigonos I Monophthalmos As king, 306/5-301 BC. Æ Unit (15mm, 3.75 g, 12h). Salamis mint. Struck under Demetrios I Poliorketes. Macedonian shield, boss decorated with facing gorgoneion / Macedonian helmet; kerykeion and monogram to lower left and right. Price 3159 (c. 323-315 BC); Zapiti & Michaelidou 7–8. VF, dark patina Ex: Savoca [ATTACH=full]1298990[/ATTACH] Antiochos III Megas Seleukid Kingdom. Uncertain (military) mint 60. 223-187 BC. Struck 202-187 BC Bronze Æ 17mm., 4,60g. Macedonian shield with gorgoneion in central boss / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑNΤΙΟΧΟΥ, elephant walking right, anchor above, monogram of ΠΑ below. very fine SC 1089.3a; HGC 9, 490 Former: Savoca So great were these that, just like everything else Greek, the Romans had to get in on the fun. If course to the Greeks the Romans were the [MEDIA=youtube]GR35pRz7JQ8[/MEDIA]: [ATTACH=full]1298994[/ATTACH] Macedonia under Roman rule AR tetradrachm- 16,21 gram,31 mm, struck after 168AD at Amphipolis obv: diademed head of Artemis Tauropolos facing right with quiver over shoulder in the center of a Macedonian shield, shield decorated with seven eight-pointed stars within double crescents rev: Club of Herakles within oak wreath, monograms and legend around, thunderbolt at left AMNG III, 159, SNG Cop 1314, BMC 2 Ex NB-Numismatics "After the defeat of Perseus at the battle of Pydna in 168 BC, the Romans divided Macedonia into four separate autonomous administrative regions ( merides ). The first region (ΠPΩTEΣ) lay east of the Strymon with its capital at Amphipolis, the second (ΔEYTEPAΣ) between the Strymon and Axios with its capital at Thessalonica, the third between the Axios and Peneos with its capital at Pella, and the fourth (TETAPTHΣ) included most of Upper Macedonia with its capital at Heraclea Lynci. These four regions only lasted until 148 BC when the country was finally united to constitute a Roman Province and proceeded to issue coins under the authority of its legatus pro praetore. Livy informs us that initially all commerce between the regions, exploitation of the silver and gold mines and the importation of salt were forbidden. Almost all the coinage of this period is struck in the name of the first region and runs parallel to the mass coinages of Thasos and Maroneia from about 158 BC. The first region was the most prolific in its coin issues, striking huge issues of tetradrachms and bronze. The second region had only two issues of tetradrachms and the fourth had only two issues of bronzes. Coins from these two regions are very rare today. No coinage is known from the third region." I have a feeling this was minted under Nero, but no proof to back that up other than similarities: [ATTACH=full]1298993[/ATTACH] Pseudo-autonomous issue, 1st century AD. (Bronze, 17 mm, 4.97 g), Beroia. Macedonian shield. Rev. MΑΚΕΔΟΝΩΝ Nike standing to left on globe, holding wreath with the extended right hand and palm branch with the left. SNG Cop. 1331. SNG ANS.-. RPC -. Unusual and rare; a very interesting exampleA very interesting and scarce emission of the Macedonian Koinon MACEDON. Koinon of Macedon. Ex: Munzzentrum And then the Romans kind of had this fun little coin caked the Denarius:woot: Oh, funny. On top of the stellar artistry and toning it's the portrait of Philip V, the last truly GREAT:jimlad: King of Macedon: [ATTACH=full]1298995[/ATTACH] L. MARCIUS PHILIPPUS. Denarius (112 or 113 BC). Rome. Obv: Head of Philip V of Macedon right, wearing diademed royal Macedonian helmet with goat horns; Roma monogram to upper left, Φ to lower right. Rev: L PHILIPPVS . Equestrian statue right; mark of value in exergue. Crawford 293/1. VF 3.99 g. 19 mm. Ex Numismatik Naumann Purchased Jan/2021 And how about Greek style and level of beauty and artistry mixed in with whimsy and mythology:kiss: I'll take two please; [ATTACH=full]1298996[/ATTACH] Creperius, Rocus Denarius. 68 BC. Uncertain mint. (Ffc-657). (Craw-399-1b). (Cal-522). Obv: Bust of the back of the Sea Goddess to the right, C to the right, to the left crab. Rev .: Neptune with trident, in biga pulled by hippocampi to the right, below Q CREPER M (F) / ROCVS. Ag. 3.61 g. Usually struck off center. Very scarce. VF. Ex: Tauler & Fau "There is barely anything known about the gens Crepereia, which makes it difficult to explain the marine imagery present on this type. Eckhel regards this coin as referring to the colony of Corinth, but Caesar did not annexe the region as a province until 44 BC, which is in disagreement with the dating of the coin. There were, however, cults at Corinth dedicated to both Neptune and Venus well into the Roman age. There are inscriptions which confirm that the gens maintained a trading presence throughout the Mediterranean, being recorded as active in the East and North Africa; it is possible the moneyer's family also had a presence at or connection to Corinth which was significant to them, but is now lost to history. The female bust on the obverse is often described as the sea-goddess Amphitrite, but in his analysis of the coin, Andrew McCabe argues that Venus is the more likely candidate to accompany Neptune. While we cannot be certain as to why the moneyer chose this particular imagery, Tacitus does relate how Neptune was less than propitious towards his descendent Crepereius Gallus who was killed in an assassination attempt against Agrippina when he boarded the self-sinking boat Nero had commissioned." If I have to tell you why I'm in love with this coin, we'll first off, welcome to Coin Talk. I'm Ryro aaaand [MEDIA=youtube]X53ZSxkQ3Ho[/MEDIA] [ATTACH=full]1298999[/ATTACH] Julia Domna Denarius . 193-196 AD . Rome . (Ric- 536 ). Ob .: IVLIA DOMNA AVG, Bust draped to the right . Rev .: VENERI VICTR, Venus standing to the right, leaning on a column, holding a palm and an apple . Ag . 3.18 g. Displaced. Tone . EBC . Tauler & Fau Jan 2021 I, and we, would love to see some of YOUR favs and maybe read why they appeal to youo_O[/QUOTE]
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