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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1811426, member: 112&quot;]Perhaps you should have quoted the first part of the paragraph you got that quote from Paul.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>&quot; When the subject of color (or toning) arises, eyebrows are raised. Only eye appeal generates this kind of emotion from serious numismatists. There seem to be two basic camps : nature&#039;s beautiful work or nature&#039;s wrath. In fact, both are correct.&quot;</i></p><p><br /></p><p>I think what they should have said is, In fact, both may or may not be correct. Why ? Because it depends on who you ask.</p><p><br /></p><p>For in chapter 3 of the PCGS book you find the following - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>&quot; Judgments regarding color or toning are sometimes subjective. When a coin has beautiful original color or toning, this is almost universally viewed in a positive way. <b>However, many coins have color or toning that may be considered differently by individual graders.</b> Eye appeal is a combination of all of the other elements of a coin&#039;s grade, so there is often some disagreement on this factor as well. When a coin has blazing luster and is almost fully struck with almost no marks, the eye appeal is great and there is little or no controversy. <b>As with color or toning however, most coins do not fall into that category.</b> A grader then, makes a partly conscious, partly subconscious decision on a coins eye appeal. These factors are then combined into a final grade.&quot;</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>Paul, (and Chris) I don&#039;t even pretend to believe that the TPGs don&#039;t sometimes bump grades because of attractive toning. You know they do, I know they do, pretty much everybody <b>knows</b> they do. But then they also bump grades because of a pedigree, or because of rarity, or because of value. And everybody knows that too. But at the same time pretty much everybody disagrees with it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is toning any different ? No it isn&#039;t. The toning itself should have no effect whatsoever on the grade of a coin. They admit (see above) that one grader may bump a grade because of toning while another will not. Yes, there is some subjectivity in grading, no doubt about it. But when it comes to toning there is too much subjectivity, that&#039;s why when it comes to toning most coins do not fall into that category of little or no controversy - even among their own graders.</p><p><br /></p><p>So yeah, they&#039;re vague, they&#039;re confusing, and they are on purpose. Because on one hand they tell you yes, and on the other hand they tell you no.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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