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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;phankins11, post: 1988636, member: 70703&quot;]If I&#039;m asking, it usually means it is, just can&#039;t get myself to believe my own opinion some times...</p><p><br /></p><p>What&#039;s hampering me is that, despite the tons of hits this coin has on both obverse and reverse, underneath all that there does seem to be at least an XF coin as far as the devices, fields and legends go (seller says AU). Still has a strong LIBERTY, the feathers do show flatness on the tips and stems, only moderate flatness evident in the hair behind the eye and ear. Legends are all very strong on both sides...seems to be a good strike. The reverse seems to have received the better strike of the press...the wreath, bow and arrows seems to have great lasting detail. The shield on top is too out of focus for me to tell if the detail is there, but going off the rest of the reverse I would assume the detail is there.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can&#039;t see or detect any evidence of whizzing...seems with whizzing, you can typically see many short (in length), hairline to a bit stronger, scratches in the fields. I&#039;ve also observed that the detail of all the devices are sacrificed a bit when a coin gets whizzed (every things looks less strong or mushy), if not worn completely, which leads to the visible contrast of a high luster vs. more wear than should be there for the amount luster. Would appreciate any guidance on this bit as I&#039; trying to gain a better eye for detecting these things. I don&#039;t see any of that here...I would expect a well cared for XF IHC to have this luster...</p><p><br /></p><p>So whats that leave...the toning...is it real? If this coin is in this great of condition, someone has either really messed up trying to tone it, or could be the remnants of some sort of past cleaning. I could see where the coin may have been in a flip where one side of it was more open (or less tightly sealed ), thus allowing for more oxidization on one side, for the toning to be as un-even as it is on one side vs. the other...</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin also seems to have maybe a very off center strike, leading to the whole left rim of the obverse having almost a third rim, not really sure what this condition is called...</p><p><br /></p><p>Would appreciate any advice...this is not a coin I&#039;m particularly interested in, except to learn...been looking at *TONS* of coins on eaby to try to get an eye for catching this stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1863-INDIAN-HEAD-CENT-AU-FULL-LIBERTY-Civil-War-Coin-/251649791980?pt=Coins_US_Individual&amp;hash=item3a977f17ec" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1863-INDIAN-HEAD-CENT-AU-FULL-LIBERTY-Civil-War-Coin-/251649791980?pt=Coins_US_Individual&amp;hash=item3a977f17ec" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1863-INDIAN-HEAD-CENT-AU-FULL-LIBERTY-Civil-War-Coin-/251649791980?pt=Coins_US_Individual&amp;hash=item3a977f17ec</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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