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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mrweaseluv, post: 1783275, member: 40340&quot;]3 and 4 I would agree with but expecting MS/PF 70s for all or most even 69s is beyond and above average. Face it we are using 90% of the exact same tech that was used 100 years ago to mint these coins we are just doing them in greater volume which in then end will produce more lower quality coins rather then higher. (ie the 2009 Lincoln formative years penny) I will add that #2 is personal preference some collectors will buy coins only if certified, most newer collectors that don&#039;t have the experience to judge the raw coins could only benefit from this. Other older collectors I know own not even a single TPG certified coin. So that is not really something that can be judged overall but must be taken on a case by case basis.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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